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Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

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Serendipity22 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:16:03

Ok, here goes, i really do feel for Harry, we see a Royal who must act and deliver as only a Royal can do, BUT that Royal is a human being just like each and everyone of us.

I am not getting into a debate about Megan, its Harry that i so feel for. I truthfully belive that the loss of his mum plays a HUGE part of all this tangled mess that is happening right now.

For 1 thing he shares my birthday ( hahaha true, but im just throwing it in the mix )

I travelled down to London for Diana's funeral, the streets were absolutely packed like sardines, punk rockers stood next to grandmas, every nation was stood together in united grief and we all watched as 2 boys walked behind their mums coffin, and those i stood next to cried, we all cried and i said to myself there and then, the time will arrive when they act upon this huge huge loss and i believe that time is now.

sadsad

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:18:45

The two brothers are different personalities. Add to this, Harry was 12 and William 15 when their mother died. There’s some research indicating children less than 12 years when their parent died were more likely to experience depression than those who lost a parent in adolescence.
I’m sympathetic to both these young men. I dislike the way some people portray William as the good brother and Harry in such negative terms as vindictive, selfish, spiteful and cruel.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Feb-22 18:29:24

I think the support given to each of the brothers by their respective wives says a lot about how they have subsequently coped with things.

LOUISA1523 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:30:13

I think he's a bit of a tosser...he needed to stay in the US now .....he's made his bed

eazybee Tue 15-Feb-22 18:35:06

Harry (is portrayed) in such negative terms as vindictive, selfish, spiteful and cruel.
No. Harry has portrayed himself as such, through his own (ghost-written )words.

Coastpath Tue 15-Feb-22 18:52:53

I feel sorry for Harry and William - what a sad start to their lives. It's obviously affected them both differently. They do seem like very different people.

I feel sorry for all the royal family. It's hard to imagine being born into a life that dictates your job, where you live, your future and keeps you and everyone you love, including your children, in the public eye for all of your days. The press gaze and constant judgement must be relentless.

All enough to drive you mad I should think.

welbeck Tue 15-Feb-22 19:02:05

but then if he had really wanted to leave it all, resign from the royal family, he could have done that and lived quietly somewhere, like the japanese princess did.

Millie22 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:17:52

I feel sorry for Harry but I do wish if he wanted to have a quiet life he would just do that. All the interviews and telling everybody his views has seemed to cause an awful lot of heartache to his family.

Caleo Tue 15-Feb-22 19:22:38

I am sure if Prince Harry ends up on the streets one of his rich relatives will help him.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:30:53

Coastpath, I’m with you.

Zoejory Tue 15-Feb-22 19:32:45

Yeah, I agree with Coastpath as well.

Life in a gilded cage for sure

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:35:14

I agree Coastpath so I don't understand why Harry's done nothing but court publicity since he left and why more often than not, he's done so by trashing his family.

Sparklefizz Tue 15-Feb-22 19:41:41

Smileless2012

I agree Coastpath so I don't understand why Harry's done nothing but court publicity since he left and why more often than not, he's done so by trashing his family.

Because it's the only way he can earn the sort of money he wants.

He doesn't seem to have thought through his finances before rushing off to first Canada and then the US. He was astonished that his father stopped his allowance and that he wouldn't have his security provided.

In order to provide the sort of lifestyle he was accustomed to, he needed to find a way to bring in some money and he has nothing to offer. He's trying to lecture people on therapies and giving counselling without any proper knowledge or training. All he can sell is himself and his thoughts/experiences.

Once that stream of income has run dry, what will he do?

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:45:27

Based on what he's done already Sparklefizz I dread to think.

FlexibleFriend Tue 15-Feb-22 19:48:07

I don't feel sorry for either of them tbh but I can empathise with them both. I have a brother 2 years younger than me and we lost both our parents, my mum when I was 14 and he was 12 and my dad when I was 16 and he was 14. We didn't have their wealth or huge family but we got on with our lives. Neither of us have had mental health issues as a consequence and nor have we been spiteful to any of our remaining relatives. We agree people just did what they thought was for the best at the time under difficult circumstances. Harry is clearly not as well balanced as either of us and he is being manipulated by someone who only cares about how much money he'll make by inflicting yet more pain on the people who thought they were helping him. He needs medical help and lots of it.

Allsorts Tue 15-Feb-22 19:54:22

Lots of children go through much more than they did, it was awful but you don’t go round hurting people. Luckily Harry has someone as self obsessed as he is and he’s in the best place, he’s burnt his bridges, got his money, so he’s fine. For the pair of them, you haven’t seen anything yet, the best is yet to come.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 20:01:38

Lots of children have awful experiences of loss and/or abuse. Some of them are remarkably resilient, others aren’t. Living through the developmental years William and Harry did, no wonder they struggled.
I expect the support William has had from the apparently stable, kind Middleton family and of course his wife, has helped him so much.
Harry was younger, he didn’t go iff to St Andrew’s to do a degree and mid with ‘ordinary’ privileged young people. Off he went into the army.
I’m genuinely puzzled that a gang of grannies can be so dismissive, so unkind to this man.

LadyWee Tue 15-Feb-22 20:03:46

I don’t think it helps to compare their situation to any other. They were kids, they lost their mum in a really traumatic way, having been through quite an unusual childhood. But they are individuals with their own experiences and personalities so obviously will react differently to any situation

Personally I find the hysteria around him and Meghan odd and the hatred they seem to incite from some . If you don’t like them for whatever reason fine, but no need for the vitriol and rehashing. Ultimately none of us actually know anything other than what has been reported in the press from both sides. Probably parts of truth to all of it but really - don’t worry about it! Leave them alone. They aren’t hurting you in any way so really it shouldn’t affect you.

Blinko Tue 15-Feb-22 20:14:01

Esspee

I used to really like Harry and I loved it when he married Megan. I thought she and he together would blow a breath of fresh air into the royal family.
Note that is all past tense.

Yep. Same here. Very sad all round.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 20:37:50

Well said LadyWee

GagaJo Tue 15-Feb-22 20:52:55

Makes no difference if he had it worse or easier than anyone else. His pain is his pain.

Good luck to him. I hope he can get the help he needs.

Coastpath Tue 15-Feb-22 20:54:20

Me too GagaJo.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 21:22:51

Me three

halfpint1 Tue 15-Feb-22 21:44:47

I feel that Harry is missing his own life spewing out this venom all the time. Constantly churning up the past, he needs to let it go and enjoy his new sunshine

Beswitched Tue 15-Feb-22 21:49:10

I think William is probably brighter than Harry and also married a very stable woman for whom family comes first and foremost.

Harry seems to have married a much more volatile woman. He was also younger when he lost his mother and has had to put up with public and irresponsible speculation about James Hewitt which must have been horrendous for him.

He seems to be a lost soul, easily led and his own worst enemy.

Jaberwok Tue 15-Feb-22 22:04:09

Nobody made the Princes walk behind their mothers coffin despite what PH would have us believe, if they hadn't wanted to they wouldn't have done so. It was agreed with them that Prince Philip would walk with P.W and PC walk with Harry along with Earl Spencer. I think since his.marriage, Harry has behaved atrociously towards his family who have done their best to help him, especially to his grandmother and his father. Anyone who uses their dead mother and their close family in order to generate massive amounts of money must be a pretty dreadful person. Lots of young people have lost one of both parents in terrible circumstances but don't use them as a money machine or spend the rest of their lives going on and on about it blaming others for their misfortune. Harry once seemed a lovely chap but now he appears bitter and resentful. Sorry, but I've no time for the man he's become whatsoever.