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Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

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Serendipity22 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:16:03

Ok, here goes, i really do feel for Harry, we see a Royal who must act and deliver as only a Royal can do, BUT that Royal is a human being just like each and everyone of us.

I am not getting into a debate about Megan, its Harry that i so feel for. I truthfully belive that the loss of his mum plays a HUGE part of all this tangled mess that is happening right now.

For 1 thing he shares my birthday ( hahaha true, but im just throwing it in the mix )

I travelled down to London for Diana's funeral, the streets were absolutely packed like sardines, punk rockers stood next to grandmas, every nation was stood together in united grief and we all watched as 2 boys walked behind their mums coffin, and those i stood next to cried, we all cried and i said to myself there and then, the time will arrive when they act upon this huge huge loss and i believe that time is now.

sadsad

trisher Thu 17-Feb-22 10:15:17

Peasblossom

He turned up had his photo taken and left, trisha. I know this because I know people working with Sentebale. Other than that he has done nothing. Initiated no contact, barely responded to communication from them. Certainly done nothing to contribute.

A promise of the proceeds of his book? We’ll see. Promises are cheap. Especially if your accountants get to it first.

That's weird Peaseblossom
Well he must be a brilliant polo player because while he was having his photo taken he scored two goals. There are photos of him on a horse as well.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9909119/Prince-Harry-host-polo-match-Colorado-Sentebale-charity.html

Luckygirl3 Thu 17-Feb-22 10:12:53

trisher and Janamax - exactly.

We must not let ourselves be led by the nose by the media who like nothing better than a baddie story to get their teeth into.

I used to work on a national magazine and once had a major row with the editor. I was gleaning news and found a story relevant to the mag about a Traveller boy being run over on a roadside site. His first comment? ..... "Oh great - did he die?" This is how their minds work. They just love a bit of negative stuff. He got very short shrift from me.

Peasblossom Thu 17-Feb-22 10:10:28

He turned up had his photo taken and left, trisha. I know this because I know people working with Sentebale. Other than that he has done nothing. Initiated no contact, barely responded to communication from them. Certainly done nothing to contribute.

A promise of the proceeds of his book? We’ll see. Promises are cheap. Especially if your accountants get to it first.

trisher Thu 17-Feb-22 10:03:21

It's funny isn't it someone recently posted that it was a pity Harry had abandoned Sentebale his African charity. A quick Google reveals he was at a polo match which raised over $2 million and he's promised the proceeds from his forthcoming book to the charity. Very little UK press coverage though. Possibly because it paints him in a good light and he is now the "Bad Royal". Because heaven forbid we should focus on what the rest of the dodgy family are up to like pervy Uncle Andrew or Cash-for-honours Dad.

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 09:49:18

What did she 'take'? I genuinely want to know because from what I have seen, she married the man she loved and in return got a lot of toxic, jealous hate thrown at her from a spiteful and vindictive UK press. No wonder they both fled this country. I would have done the same if I were in their shoes.

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 09:39:15

lemsip

well, what makes me laugh is the people who go on about the press and say.....
''We only know what the press feed us with,'' The press are governed by laws ' don't you know?' and can be sued for libel if they 'feed us lies'
I can only presume some people don't keep up with current affairs and then come on here doubting everything.... when they know nothing! there you go!

Newspapers and their websites are not properly regulated.

Most newspapers are members of IPSO, a sham complaints-handler ran by newspaper editors, executives, and compliant politicians. IPSO does not adequately protect people from media abuse, intrusion, and intimidation.
Nor do you have to be in the public eye to face this kind of treatment. And currently, there’s nothing to stop newspapers from doing the same to another, blameless person.

Since the Leveson Inquiry into press standards eight years ago, we’ve been told repeatedly by newspaper editors that; “everything has changed.”

The way Caroline Flack was treated shows that could not be further from the truth. She’s not alone – Gareth Thomas, Ben Stokes, and Meghan Markle have all been subjected to intrusive and unethical press coverage in the last couple of years.

These patterns of behaviour have detrimental effects on people’s lives and newspapers are getting away with it.

Anniebach Thu 17-Feb-22 09:32:18

Yes we have the choice to be kind , so does Harry

Luckygirl3 Thu 17-Feb-22 09:25:08

Indeed so - but we also have the choice to be kind.

Serendipity22 Thu 17-Feb-22 09:10:32

I know someone posted about Harry arriving at a day when he may regrets a lot of what has happened in his life. Maybe he will, maybe be wont but that young man carries so much hurt, how can he not and i know that when our emotions are all over the place, we do not say and do the things we know are true and right.

I just feel so very sorry for Harry and yes he has said some very cutting words about the RF, I saw the interview, but as i say, he is a very troubled young man and none of us could possibly have 1 ounce of knowledge of what it must be like to be him in the public eye.

Its good to read everyones take on PH, whether we agree or whether we don't everyone has a right to their own opinion. smile

Lilypops Thu 17-Feb-22 08:57:47

Well said Maddyone PH and MM had a lot of love and support in the beginning ,it was lovely to see P.C walk her down the aisle.

nanna8 Thu 17-Feb-22 08:54:52

Only in America, huh?

eazybee Thu 17-Feb-22 08:50:53

Harry and Meghan are making an apparently successful life by signing a great many deals with media companies, all of which depend on their notoriety achieved via scurrilous interviews and books; they have little else to offer. Oh, I forgot 'The Bench'; anyone seen a copy?

Freya5 Thu 17-Feb-22 08:48:06

Janamax

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

Not as big as the Queen's cult following, I bet.

The Queen has served this country well over the past 70 years though, Meghan only serves herself. Took what she wanted and ran.

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 08:39:20

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

Not as big as the Queen's cult following, I bet.

Freya5 Thu 17-Feb-22 08:34:04

Esspee

I used to really like Harry and I loved it when he married Megan. I thought she and he together would blow a breath of fresh air into the royal family.
Note that is all past tense.

Actually I thought it was William and Kate that would bring fresh air and new ideas to the RF. They certainly have, always there to join in, supporting the Queen, and I’m sure Charles when he succeeeds. A bit of an all rounder is our Duchess. It is such a shame to see, when it’s put in front of me, the misery that Harry has become.

Janamax Thu 17-Feb-22 08:33:10

It's more than just a little ironic that in the news today, the REAL scandal of the Queen's second son paying off his sexual abuse accuser - probably with taxpayers money - yet here we are STILL complaining about another Prince who is making a very successful life for himself away from his toxic family.

Josieann Thu 17-Feb-22 08:21:53

LullyDully

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

But without many members?

LullyDully Thu 17-Feb-22 08:18:57

My American friend describes Megan as a cult and I fear she has hit the nail on the head.

FannyCornforth Thu 17-Feb-22 06:23:08

maddy your post at 22.24 ? ?
I’d forgotten that Charles walked Meghan down the aisle. Such a little thing in the grand scheme , but sad

lemsip Wed 16-Feb-22 23:13:56

well, what makes me laugh is the people who go on about the press and say.....
''We only know what the press feed us with,'' The press are governed by laws ' don't you know?' and can be sued for libel if they 'feed us lies'
I can only presume some people don't keep up with current affairs and then come on here doubting everything.... when they know nothing! there you go!

Zoejory Wed 16-Feb-22 22:30:35

I'm just guessing those who ascertain that we only know what we know due to the press have never seen the Oprah interview or heard Harry rambling on and on.

Sadly, we know only too well what we know because it came out of Harry and Meghan's mouths.

Their truth as Oprah said. Well there is only one truth. The actual truth. And it's quite evident that there were more than a few untruths.

I was very pleased they had decided to quite the RF at the time. Wonderful that they could forge a life out for themselves in private. However I was rather naive. It was clearly not their intention to live a quiet life. The only way they can make money is by trashing his family.

I wonder if he'll live to regret it.

maddyone Wed 16-Feb-22 22:24:40

Yes indeed, how many people would trash their family to 50 million people? I find it almost unbelievable that some people/posters blame the press and seem to think the press somehow made everything up and fed it to a gullible public. No, that is not what happened, Meghan and Harry told 50 million people all over the world how dreadfully the royal family treated them. That same public who saw the lavish wedding put on for Harry and Meghan and saw the house they were given (on which they had no mortgage or rent to pay like other couples just starting out) and saw that millions was spent on that house in order to style and furnish it to the couples specifications, and that Prince Charles gave them two million a year to live on and walked Meghan down the isle after she fell out with her father. And on it goes. How terribly they were treated. Whatever mental health issues Harry may have, he won’t find the cure in speaking despicably about his family to 50 million people. If he has mental health issues, and we don’t know that he has, then he needs extensive therapy with a fully qualified psychologist. Speaking to the world and writing books will not make him better, although the millions he will be paid might be very attractive to him. Has anyone considered that he might simply want the money since his father won’t support him any longer, as he said very clearly in the Oprah interview.
I’m rather pleased that my two sons who are a similar age to Harry, don’t expect me to pay for their upkeep and they actually go out and earn their own their own keep.

Josieann Wed 16-Feb-22 21:31:43

Did you know that Harry and Meghan's interview at the time was watched by over 50 million people worldwide? That figure is the entire population of Spain or nearly the whole of England in terms of numbers. 50 million people listened to H & M as themselves, and not in any role where they needed to hold back or be given speaking points to follow. Yes, he had every right to put his side of the story, but even if only half the 50 million saw through them, that is huge anumber of people who believe they fabricated the truth..

Janamax Wed 16-Feb-22 21:16:14

We only know what the press feed us with,

No, because Harry tells us himself, either via 90 minutes of complaints on Oprah, or in the books he is involved with.

After years of vicious gossip from the tabloids he has every right to put his side of the story.

Beswitched Wed 16-Feb-22 21:15:23

He seems very misguided and is behaving a bit like a bull in a China shop at the moment. If he wished to escape the whole royal circus and build a simpler and more meaningful life elsewhere I think that would have been commendable.

But he doesn't seem to know what he wants and seems to have cut himself off from those who really care for him. I do feel sorry for him. I genuinely don't think he fully understands the consequences of his behaviour. He seems to be a very mixed up and troubled man.