Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

Pammie1

Sorry I don’t agree. Both Harry and William were affected by their mothers’ death and while Harry has behaved very selfishly in my view, William has always put his royal heritage and duties first.

I don’t doubt that the death of his mother and the controversy surrounding it has had its’ effects on Harry but that doesn’t excuse his lack of respect for his heritage or the complete disregard he’s shown for his family. Harry and Meghan said they were departing for America because they wanted a life out of the limelight and they’ve done nothing but court attention and controversy ever since - about to do it again with the book Harry’s written. No, I have no sympathy whatsoever.

I totally agree with you. He may have his issues to deal with but he has the money to get the best treatment and would not have to wait for years like many others have to do. He is besotted with her but that's no excuse for treating his own family the way he has.

Meghan changed him. And I don’t believe it’s acceptable to publicly trash your family, especially for money.

If they hadn't walked behind the coffin, Prince Harry would now be saying that they weren't allowed to and that decision has affected him mentally all his life. The RF couldn't win on that one. Complaining about this is a bit rich coming from someone who has been willing to literally sell his dead mother for millions of dollars, never mind the consequences to her reputation particularly as she and the family you so despise have made sure you have more personal money than most of us see in a lifetime, and yet you must have more and more , why?!

nobody made the prince’s walk behind their mother’s coffin despite what PH would have us believe

They were 12 and 15 years old, bereaved in a sudden and shocking way. Informed consent ? Children go along with advice from the adults in this kind of situation. The adults did what they thought best, presumably what the thought was expected of them.
Prince Harry feels they got it wrong. He’s shown signs of ptsd for a long time. I’d be surprised if the walk isn’t contributing to the trauma he continues to live with.

What I can't understand is how Harry could use his allegedly adored dead mother to make millions of dollars knowing that people will lap it up, gossip about her probably in a salacious way that trashes her reputation, deeply upset his father, hurts beyond belief his again, allegedly, adored elderly grandmother, and infuriate his once loved brother. For me that behaviour towards my own family would be inconceivable. While I realise he's not very academic and has little with which to earn a living , unlike William, nevertheless to stoop to these depths is vile. I don't think he was ever fond of any of them including his mother, else how could you do this? I know I couldn't.

But if people weren't willing to gawp at photos of him and his family and read endless gossip about them this wouldn’t be a story . Yes, other people have experienced loss, but they didn’t get the whole media and eager public attention for no reason other than their parentage. The RF are a dysfunctional family themselves, yet the are viewed as semi divine beings by some who follow their every move and believe they know their inner most motivations and thoughts. Good luck to H and M and if the gullible are willing to pay £££s to lap up their books or films or whatever - why not.

nanna8 yes, I agree with you.
No beating around the bush there!

Whitewavemark2

There is a saying isn’t there.

“ until you walk a mile in someone’s shoes”…………………..

Yes, and the you’re a mile away from them, and you’ve got their shoes!

(Billy Connolly, I think)

Just another upper class twit really, washing his dirty linen in public. Hopefully now he is a parent he might grow up a bit. Don't fancy his chances as he will be surrounded by loud mouthed sychophants.

people do feel strongly, not just because they are being horrible about a celebrity whom they don't personally know.
we are a constitutional monarchy, and although in some ways illogical and old-fashioned, it has helped keep this country stable politically for centuries. since 1688 at least.
we have avoided many of the bloody revolutions of other countries.
we are a temperate climate and mild in our politics.
on the whole. which why recent shenanigans are so shocking.
so if harry pours scorn on his own family, that could be seen as destabilising the monarchy, which is the unchanging part of our constitution. so it does or could affect us all.
at least i think it legitimate that we have an opinion on it and him.

I used to like Prince Harry but not anymore. Such a shame he married a toxic American woman from a very dysfunctional family and she seems to bring out the worst in him. I don’t believe at all that the Royal Family is racist.

I have accompanied my husband to three charity events at the Palaces - two garden parties and the last one was a Christmas Party at St James Palace.

What surprised me most at St James Place was to go to the ladies room, you have to pass through a private room , there were black and white pictures of the Queen and Prince Philip on the desk, pictures of William and Kate on the wall and other family members, yet no one was guarding the room.

I am unable to comprehend the whole vendetta against Harry and Meghan. It is not a bandwagon I wish to join.

It seems that some people need to have someone to either hate or worship. Diana = good; Harry = bad. Logic and facts do not come into it. They are just people like you and I.

Nobody made the Princes walk behind their mothers coffin despite what PH would have us believe, if they hadn't wanted to they wouldn't have done so. It was agreed with them that Prince Philip would walk with P.W and PC walk with Harry along with Earl Spencer. I think since his.marriage, Harry has behaved atrociously towards his family who have done their best to help him, especially to his grandmother and his father. Anyone who uses their dead mother and their close family in order to generate massive amounts of money must be a pretty dreadful person. Lots of young people have lost one of both parents in terrible circumstances but don't use them as a money machine or spend the rest of their lives going on and on about it blaming others for their misfortune. Harry once seemed a lovely chap but now he appears bitter and resentful. Sorry, but I've no time for the man he's become whatsoever.

I think William is probably brighter than Harry and also married a very stable woman for whom family comes first and foremost.

Harry seems to have married a much more volatile woman. He was also younger when he lost his mother and has had to put up with public and irresponsible speculation about James Hewitt which must have been horrendous for him.

He seems to be a lost soul, easily led and his own worst enemy.

I feel that Harry is missing his own life spewing out this venom all the time. Constantly churning up the past, he needs to let it go and enjoy his new sunshine

Me three

Me too GagaJo.

Makes no difference if he had it worse or easier than anyone else. His pain is his pain.

Good luck to him. I hope he can get the help he needs.

Well said LadyWee

Esspee

I used to really like Harry and I loved it when he married Megan. I thought she and he together would blow a breath of fresh air into the royal family.
Note that is all past tense.

Yep. Same here. Very sad all round.

I don’t think it helps to compare their situation to any other. They were kids, they lost their mum in a really traumatic way, having been through quite an unusual childhood. But they are individuals with their own experiences and personalities so obviously will react differently to any situation

Personally I find the hysteria around him and Meghan odd and the hatred they seem to incite from some . If you don’t like them for whatever reason fine, but no need for the vitriol and rehashing. Ultimately none of us actually know anything other than what has been reported in the press from both sides. Probably parts of truth to all of it but really - don’t worry about it! Leave them alone. They aren’t hurting you in any way so really it shouldn’t affect you.

Lots of children have awful experiences of loss and/or abuse. Some of them are remarkably resilient, others aren’t. Living through the developmental years William and Harry did, no wonder they struggled.
I expect the support William has had from the apparently stable, kind Middleton family and of course his wife, has helped him so much.
Harry was younger, he didn’t go iff to St Andrew’s to do a degree and mid with ‘ordinary’ privileged young people. Off he went into the army.
I’m genuinely puzzled that a gang of grannies can be so dismissive, so unkind to this man.

Lots of children go through much more than they did, it was awful but you don’t go round hurting people. Luckily Harry has someone as self obsessed as he is and he’s in the best place, he’s burnt his bridges, got his money, so he’s fine. For the pair of them, you haven’t seen anything yet, the best is yet to come.

I don't feel sorry for either of them tbh but I can empathise with them both. I have a brother 2 years younger than me and we lost both our parents, my mum when I was 14 and he was 12 and my dad when I was 16 and he was 14. We didn't have their wealth or huge family but we got on with our lives. Neither of us have had mental health issues as a consequence and nor have we been spiteful to any of our remaining relatives. We agree people just did what they thought was for the best at the time under difficult circumstances. Harry is clearly not as well balanced as either of us and he is being manipulated by someone who only cares about how much money he'll make by inflicting yet more pain on the people who thought they were helping him. He needs medical help and lots of it.

Based on what he's done already Sparklefizz I dread to think.