Gender neutral lavatories.

All public cubicles should also have a washbasin contained in it. More money needs to be spent in this 21st century to provide far more and far better toilet facilities for all humans.

Probably also a small more communal area where people (male or female or anything else) can sort out make-up, comb hair, etc. etc.

Surely, in most places we live, all our loos are unisex!!!

I also think that more public toilets should have attendants around.

I do have a radar key, and have to use disabled toilets (actually, proper name is toilets for those with disabilities), as I often need to have a basin and tap near to hand (to aid my ostomy). I feel bad about having to go into one of those as people with wheelchairs are unable to use anywhere else. So, when I come across anywhere where all cubicles have a basin I am delighted.

Really do not understand people worrying about unisex facilities - except just the usual unwillingness to change habits of a lifetime.

I'm not too bothered about gender-specific ones, although self-id has blurred the issues with them, but I'm very keen to avoid unisex ones, particularly in situations where the facilities are situated a way from the seating areas (eg upstairs or along a corridor).

There is a huge difference, and I can't help thinking that the blurring of the meaning between 'gender-neutral' and 'unisex' is making these discussions more difficult, and that this is deliberate.

Words matter.

A lot of smaller places are now making all toilets unisex cubicles with basins, which I think very sensible. I seem to find it more the case than not.
I think that the time factor is probably neutral, as there is no need for gender specific loos.

There is a wonderful old coaching inn near us, that does the most wonderful roast dinners every day, and is an old fashioned gathering place for farmers and the kind of peoole who, when in town on business' want a proper dinner at mid-day. The ladies there has a huge room with 3 chaise longues, and tables with tissues boxes. I should miss that I have to say, but I don't see many ladies gathering there to moan about their husbands and the cost of domestic help these days!

I have never had a problem with gender neutral toilets that have separate cubicles and wash basins in the cubicles. However I would feel very very uncomfortable walking past men standing at urinals peeing!!

I read that at the theatre both ex male /female toilets are now gender neutral and the urinal ones are signposted so people can choose. Fine in theory but in practice it just means men can go into the non urinal ones now and use the cubicles whereas women can choose the non urinal and presumably queue even longer for the loo! Or they can wander past a load of men peeing and undoing/doing up flies to get to probably the only 1 or 2 cubicles available (most men's loos have very few cubicles for obvious reasons.) Whilst queuing for the few cubicles they will by necessity be standing relatively near the peeing men, and then repeating the exercise when they come out to wash their hands, unless by some lucky chance there are wash basins in the few cubicles!!

In other words this perfectly OK change in principle needs some serious money spent by
organisations to convert the loo spaces, taking into account all the connotations and needs of the users!! Its a lot more than change a sign!!

I think trees and bushes are probably unisex. At least, I've never seen a gender specific one yet.

I would never use a unisex toilet. I'd rather keep my legs crossed or find a nearby tree or bush.

Gay venues may have male/female toilets, but frequently, those categories are ignored with no issue.

The V&A Members Room has mixed loos, but no urinals. Fine.

I often wondered why unisex cubicles weren’t so from the beginning. Why the need for urinals for men when they could use a normal closed toilet like they do at home? Some men apparently are uncomfortable using urinals too. Obviously now we’ve got used to the ‘Ladies’ and will feel rather uneasy using anything else.

I don’t like the thought of having to share facilities. Loos are often a long way from seating areas, so already potentially risky for women and girls, but at least we know that lurking men are likely to be up to no good. If men can be in there legitimately though, how are we to feel safe?

I think a dad with small children is rather different. A bit awkward yes, but that situation is more likely to arise during the day with lots of people around, and if he goes into the cubicle with them most women would probably make allowances. It’s a very different prospect from that of random blokes in pub facilities at night, when people are often the worse for drink anyway.

I would never use the disabled toilet unless I had a disability. Those facilities were fought for through the efforts of those with disabilities.

While many women are uncomfortable with unisex loos absolutely no consideration is given to those women whose cultural or religious beliefs prohibit them from sharing facilities with unrelated males. For them the urinary leash returns!

Many women also want to comb hair & do make-up so if there's no separate area for that they'll take even longer in the cubicle-with-basin.

What I read was that there are toilets with cubicle signs and toilets with urinal signs and people can choose which of those to use.

Exactly so.
The previous Ladies & Gents now all being called unisex.
Men were going in the Ladies meaning women had to wait longer or go past the urinals in the Gents.

All fine, right?

I have used the disabled loo if desperate - surely if there is nobody with a disability immediately needing the cubicle it is mad to stand with your legs crossed in a long queue? Let's be honest, Grannys are often in a situation where if they need to go they NEED to go!

I've lived with male family members all my life and they leave the bathroom as neat and tidy as the women in the family. I think it's a bit harsh to say men make a mess in the loo especially as we've all seen the grim state some womens' public loos are left it.

Just asked my husband on his view of gender neutral toilets and he said he'd rather have single sex loos. His concern was that a man's presence would make women feel vulnerable.

Gender neutral toilets are a bad idea.
It's a known fact that most men (bascally anybody with male bits) like to pee all over the seats. Yuck.
And even if they don't, they're bound to leave the seats up.
These toilets will be a mess on no time

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Sorry that's not explained clearly, the ratio is 2:1 when compared to male facilities, twice as many

When there are unisex cubicles and urinals, whether together or separate, men get the chance to use all of them, women only some, therefore I think there should always be some female only cubicles. Studies show that females need toilets in a ratio of 2:1 but that isn't being enacted anywhere as far as I can see.
The Old Vic did a fundraiser to enable it to double the number of female toilets then didn't do it!
metro.co.uk/2019/10/03/theatre-creates-gender-neutral-toilets-urinals-pledging-female-loos-10858226/

Contained loos, floor to ceiling partitions, with sinks definitely the answer, although loads of women moan about the fact that men pee all over the place and fail to aim properly.

I read about the theatre where everyone had to file past men using urinals, which must be horrible for the men, really off putting I imagine, as it no doubt was and is for the women passing. From what I remember about intervals, it takes all the time allotted to queue up to have a pee, you can't make it to the bar area as well!

My son has had that problem when taking both children swimming, sometimes I've gone along with them so I could take my granddaughter into the women's changing room, particularly when she was a lot younger. She's a child that likes her privacy and often bags one of the two curtained cubicles when I take her swimming, leaving me out in the communal part

That is good VioletSky if that is the case the men can choose the quicker option of the urinals.
The women, of course, will get what they are given and like it)

What I read was that there are toilets with cubicle signs and toilets with urinal signs and people can choose which of those to use.

Personally I don't mind unisex toilets but they should be floor to ceiling cubicles with their own sink and preferably all accessable to disabled people

That is a good point Galaxy . Women may well need (or just prefer) to spend more time in the actual cubicle if the waiting area does not have sinks. Or, indeed if they don't want to carry out some actions in front of men.
I know that some women prefer single sex toilets but have not heard anything about men's opinions.

The worlds gone mad!

You just need toilets with cubicles and not urinals. I'm now taking both DGC for swimming lessons and DGS1 goes to Gents - he is 8. Fortunately it is within the changing area and small and I wait outside but DGD needs help as the seats are too high for her so I was worried as he finishes quickly but was ok. Had to trust the grumpy yes that he had washed his hands though!