Gender neutral lavatories.

Yes - DS had a lot of difficulty when out for the day with our granddaughter because of the lack of suitable facilities, and at the swimming pool.

Hexham Abbey has gender neutral toilets. There's a a corridor with a row of cubicles that can be used by anyone and which contain a handbasin as well, so self-contained. A simple answer to all those problems which, I hope, offends no-one.

One single cubicle on its own would address all these problems. Transgender people and fathers with daughters could enter without having to go into a shared area at all. Then everyone else (the majority) could carry on using single-sex toilets without all this nonsense. Did no-one ever think of that?

I just know this is going to morph into a thread about trans people with all the usual associated aggro.

Chestnut Septimia I’m hoping this is the way forward, one of our favourite restaurants has this, there are wash basins in the cubicle so no shared area.
It does seem that it has been “over thought”

Yes contained cubicleswith sinks is the answer. Costs money I imagine. That's not what happened at the London theatre though if it's the one I am thinking of.

A friend when out with his small daughter would use the "disabled" toilet which is usually a separate cubicle. I agree with others who say a similar set up for those uncomfortable using either male or female toilets could be the answer.

If all toilets had cubicles (as many French places do) there would be no problem. And as for the father and little daughter, they could use the disabled toilet if really necessary

yggdrasil

If all toilets had cubicles (as many French places do) there would be no problem. And as for the father and little daughter, they could use the disabled toilet if really necessary

You often can’t access the disabled toilet unless you have a special key. Most disabled people carry one. Otherwise you need to get one from someone in charge at the establishment. Disable toilets are so much more spacious that unless they were locked everyone would be using them.

Most supermarkets have unlocked separate disabled toilet cubicles.

The newest buildings and conversions I have visited have gender neutral toilets. One waiting area, cubicles with handbasins for anyone to use. Ideal!
Although I do wonder with men having to queue for them with women will there be lots more complaints about there not being enough of them?

There will need to be a lot more, women for various reasons often need to spend more time in the toilet. My bet is there will be less toilets than when they were seperate.

You just need toilets with cubicles and not urinals. I'm now taking both DGC for swimming lessons and DGS1 goes to Gents - he is 8. Fortunately it is within the changing area and small and I wait outside but DGD needs help as the seats are too high for her so I was worried as he finishes quickly but was ok. Had to trust the grumpy yes that he had washed his hands though!

The worlds gone mad!

That is a good point Galaxy . Women may well need (or just prefer) to spend more time in the actual cubicle if the waiting area does not have sinks. Or, indeed if they don't want to carry out some actions in front of men.
I know that some women prefer single sex toilets but have not heard anything about men's opinions.

What I read was that there are toilets with cubicle signs and toilets with urinal signs and people can choose which of those to use.

Personally I don't mind unisex toilets but they should be floor to ceiling cubicles with their own sink and preferably all accessable to disabled people

That is good VioletSky if that is the case the men can choose the quicker option of the urinals.
The women, of course, will get what they are given and like it)

Contained loos, floor to ceiling partitions, with sinks definitely the answer, although loads of women moan about the fact that men pee all over the place and fail to aim properly.

I read about the theatre where everyone had to file past men using urinals, which must be horrible for the men, really off putting I imagine, as it no doubt was and is for the women passing. From what I remember about intervals, it takes all the time allotted to queue up to have a pee, you can't make it to the bar area as well!

My son has had that problem when taking both children swimming, sometimes I've gone along with them so I could take my granddaughter into the women's changing room, particularly when she was a lot younger. She's a child that likes her privacy and often bags one of the two curtained cubicles when I take her swimming, leaving me out in the communal part

When there are unisex cubicles and urinals, whether together or separate, men get the chance to use all of them, women only some, therefore I think there should always be some female only cubicles. Studies show that females need toilets in a ratio of 2:1 but that isn't being enacted anywhere as far as I can see.
The Old Vic did a fundraiser to enable it to double the number of female toilets then didn't do it!
metro.co.uk/2019/10/03/theatre-creates-gender-neutral-toilets-urinals-pledging-female-loos-10858226/

Sorry that's not explained clearly, the ratio is 2:1 when compared to male facilities, twice as many

Gender neutral toilets are a bad idea.
It's a known fact that most men (bascally anybody with male bits) like to pee all over the seats. Yuck.
And even if they don't, they're bound to leave the seats up.
These toilets will be a mess on no time

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I've lived with male family members all my life and they leave the bathroom as neat and tidy as the women in the family. I think it's a bit harsh to say men make a mess in the loo especially as we've all seen the grim state some womens' public loos are left it.

Just asked my husband on his view of gender neutral toilets and he said he'd rather have single sex loos. His concern was that a man's presence would make women feel vulnerable.

I have used the disabled loo if desperate - surely if there is nobody with a disability immediately needing the cubicle it is mad to stand with your legs crossed in a long queue? Let's be honest, Grannys are often in a situation where if they need to go they NEED to go!

What I read was that there are toilets with cubicle signs and toilets with urinal signs and people can choose which of those to use.

Exactly so.
The previous Ladies & Gents now all being called unisex.
Men were going in the Ladies meaning women had to wait longer or go past the urinals in the Gents.

All fine, right?

Many women also want to comb hair & do make-up so if there's no separate area for that they'll take even longer in the cubicle-with-basin.