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Doodledog Mon 07-Mar-22 19:03:41

Academics at Leeds University have come up with six pledges that they say would make a big difference to the environment if we all signed up to them.

They are asking us to sign up for one, three, or six months, but clearly if people changed their lifestyles and kept to as many as possible for life it would be even better.
Would you be willing and/or able to take the pledge? These are their suggestions:

Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste
I only eat meat when out, as my husband is vegetarian, so it's easier for us both to eat a plant-based diet at home. I am trying not to throw away food by using up leftovers wherever possible. I don't always succeed, but I do my best.

Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year
I haven't bought many clothes since Covid hit. If buying knitting yarn and things like socks and underwear don't count, I could stick to three items a year, I think.

Keep electrical products for at least seven years
I keep electrical products until they break, but sometimes that is before seven years are up. My TV is over seven years old, and my hairdryer is more like 30 years! I'm not sure that that pledge makes enough allowance for built-in obsolescence, though.

Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years
I haven't flown since Covid struck, and am happy to take holidays in the UK these days. I've never been one for domestic flights, and only flew long-haul on business anyway, so that one's easy enough.

Get rid of personal motor vehicles if you can – and if not keep hold of your existing vehicle for longer
I don't drive, although my husband runs a car. I wouldn't want to give that up, but he's not interested in 'status cars', and will keep this one until it's on its last legs.

Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier
I'm less sure about this one. It's too late to change my pension, and I'm not sure how to 'move to a green energy'. Things like solar panels don't appeal, but if something new comes along that can be done without too much expense or disruption I'd definitely consider it.

MissAdventure Mon 07-Mar-22 19:09:57

Nope.
I don't need to.
I'm not keen on all this old tripe being trotted out anyway.

People will do what they choose to.

Doodledog Mon 07-Mar-22 19:13:29

Of course they will, but thanks for your contribution anyway :grin:

MissAdventure Mon 07-Mar-22 19:14:32

You're very welcome. smile

Daisymae Mon 07-Mar-22 19:15:55

No. I think that 3 items of clothing per year is pushing it. I think that leisure travel will become a luxury in the not too distant future. Public transport will need to improve before we give up our cars.

henetha Mon 07-Mar-22 19:19:06

No. Worthy though it might be, and I'm firmly in favour of us all doing our bit and trying to not abuse our planet, nevertheless I don't want to reduce my life, at my very old age now, to miserable depressing nothingness, unable to go anywhere or do anything and not even enjoying a bit of chicken, or whatever, now and then.
There is a balance to be made, and I'm far from extravagant in any way, so I'm sorry if it's selfish, but I'm not signing up to this.

Chewbacca Mon 07-Mar-22 19:19:36

Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste
Hmmmm! I'm an omnivore and meat is important to me but I waste nothing; chicken carcasses are used as soup stock.

Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year
Easy peasy! Only bought 2 items in the last 12 months and have no plans for any more.

Keep electrical products for at least seven years
I'm still using my 15 year old food mixer, 13 year old vacuum and 10 year old hairdryer. Last electrical item I bought was a lawn mower 3 years ago and that won't be replaced until it fails.

Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years
No problem. I haven't been on a plane since 2004 and hold no valid passport now.

Get rid of personal motor vehicles if you can – and if not keep hold of your existing vehicle for longer
I needed a car for my work and still use it now due to lack of public transport in my area but, it's 9 years old and I'll keep it until it dies.

Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier
Have been with a green energy supplier for over 5 years. House is insulated over and above recommended levels, windows and doors were replaced for more energy retentive ones when I bought this house 3 years ago. No pension supplier.

LauraNorderr Mon 07-Mar-22 19:19:46

Largely plant based diet and barely any food waste. Tick.
Only three items of clothing per annum. As long as a pack of six knickers counts as one item. Tick.
Electrical items serviced and maintained hopefully will last as long as the manufacture allows. Tick for me not so much for manufacturer.
Live in the middle of nowhere but have cut down to one vehicle, again serviced and only used when necessary. Will keep until problems occur. Tick.
Home fully insulated, double glazed and using air source heat pump for heat and hot water. Have taken temp down by one degree. Tick.
Resolved to only do laundry on good drying days so tumble dryer rarely used.
Doing our best.

BlueBalou Mon 07-Mar-22 19:21:45

No from me too ?
We are already reducing how much meat we eat, I buy clothes as I need them (probably more than 3 items a year), electrical items get replaced when necessary ( if they last 7+ years then great but I’m certainly not going to fret if they break before that!)
We haven’t had a foreign holiday for 6 years and have no plans to do so.
No way am I giving up my car, I’m the only driver here and we don’t have public transport other than the odd bus!
Our house is insulated, our new boiler is eco recommended.

‘Taking the pledge’ actually sounds somewhat draconian to me, reminds me of Prohibition ?

LauraNorderr Mon 07-Mar-22 19:21:46

Forgot the travel. Live in a beautiful part of the world so no long distance hols. Maybe one last Aussie trip next year to see our son and grandchildren. Will plant more trees!

Ailidh Mon 07-Mar-22 19:25:07

I try on the food.

I buy a lot more clothes than that. On the plus side, they're usually from charity shops, so I'm recycling.

My TVs and printer are over seven years old. I probably buy too much tech.

My car is about seven years old, five years with me. I filled the tank when I got here on January 17th, and it's 60% full. I generally walk if I can.

I don't think I can nudge anything, especially now I don't have responsibility for the utilities. I do choose ethical banks and insurers.

Interesting subject to think through.

Doodledog Mon 07-Mar-22 19:26:46

Resolved to only do laundry on good drying days so tumble dryer rarely used.
Oh yes. I got one of those Dry Soon heated airers recently. They claim to cost less than 6p an hour to run, so much less electricity than the tumble drier, even though they take longer to dry the clothes. I am still getting used to it, but am trying to remember to do the washing in the morning so I don't have to leave it on overnight. I am considering getting a timer plug to get around that, too.

JaneJudge Mon 07-Mar-22 19:27:01

I've not been on a plane for almost 3 decades so I think I'll buy more knickers

Doodledog Mon 07-Mar-22 19:30:33

You can never have too many knickers?

MawtheMerrier Mon 07-Mar-22 19:33:03

Lost cause I am afraid.
I have just replaced my 9 year old car with a new one - not an EV as they are still too expensive but 2 weeks without a car in a village with only one bus an hour was a nightmare- minicabs don't take dogs and its £15 to get anywhere. No post office in the village or access to a cashpoint either.
I am an omnivore but don't eat meat more than once or twice a week at the most. But again, to save money I have to try to live off the contents of my freezer for a bit.
The new car means I won't be buying clothes anyway except perhaps on ebay, but if possible not even then.
However I do have solar panels and try to run any electric appliances either overnight or when the sun is shining. Not least to try to bring my energy usage down when the bills go up.
So the "pledges " might all be a move in the right direction but one size doesn't fit all

nadateturbe Mon 07-Mar-22 19:34:04

Most of us on GN I would assume already do as much as we can.
But three items of clothing..couldn't do that.

JaneJudge Mon 07-Mar-22 19:35:56

I have also bought the most expensive washing line in the world so hmm I better make the most of it with all my washed knickers

CanadianGran Mon 07-Mar-22 19:45:23

Those are some pretty tough requests! I'd have to say no to most of them, except for the electrical appliances. I never replace them unless I need to and DH is good at repairs.

I can act in smaller ways to reduce waste, use less energy in my home and vehicle. Come April I will start to ride my bike to work as often as possible.

I'm afraid I've already bought 3 items of clothing so far this year.

VioletSky Mon 07-Mar-22 19:46:15

I don't think I could do 3 items of clothes a year, I would wear through them faster than that. I work with children and always on the ground with them or getting messy. I am very picky though and nothing sits unworn.

I already gave up my own car as I can walk

I can try to eat less meat, this is probably a huge factor for us. Also many pets which I think aren't green? All adopted except the eldest to be fair so needed the home.

House fully insulated and we keep the thermostat down, I'm always turning off lights and use all LEDs. Not having loft storage is a pain but I suppose does stop us buying what we don't really need.

Fly less than that already.

Appliances... I agree they don't always last 7 years but we do insure the big ones so that they are repaired.

We waste very little food, hate food waste, it really bugs me

Sorry if I forgot any or in the wrong order

EkwaNimitee Mon 07-Mar-22 19:47:37

NO NO NO NO NO NO

Chewbacca Mon 07-Mar-22 19:51:52

If a reliable public transport system was available, I'm sure more of us would be more than happy to use it and leave our cars at home. As it is, in my area we have no buses after 19.00 and none at all on a Sunday.

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 07-Mar-22 20:01:34

I’m definitely trying to eat less meat, the last 7 days I’ve eaten white meat twice, we have very little waste, raw veg goes onto the compost heap, small amount of waste food goes to be collected and then the Counci, makes it into compost (or somebody does).
I rarely buy clothes, I have plenty and I’m determined to wear them all out.
I can’t remember when I last bought anything electrical, unless something stops working, we will keep using it.
The flights might be a problem , but this year we are driving to France. Next year w e will probably go back to a couple of short haul flights. This will of course negate all the other good things we are doing!
We are with a Green Energy Company, are fully insulated.
We live in a very small village, no public transport at all, but my car is 16 years old and I’m hanging onto it.
So, no I won’t be taking the pledge, but I’m doing the best that I can, I’ve cut right back on single use plastics, using Grocery deliveries rather than use the car, so hopefully every little helps, until I fly off on holiday of course ?

harrigran Mon 07-Mar-22 20:13:53

I do all of that above anyway except I am not totally vegetarian. There is zero waste in my kitchen and some of my equipment is virtually antique, an electric mixer bought in 1975 and a coffee maker.
Can't remember when I last bought a pair of shoes but have bought some trousers as I have lost so much weight that I couldn't keep my others up.

HettyBetty Mon 07-Mar-22 20:14:23

I haven't eaten meat of any sort for over 50 years. Over half my diet is raw fruit and veg.

We rarely go abroad and I may never do so again. The car is used sparingly as we are fortunate to be able to walk and cycle locally. Three items of clothing is tricky though.

It will be unpopular but owning luxury animals is very bad for the environment. Working dogs have their uses but people will have to learn not to own a dog or cat just for a lifestyle choice. We have never owned animals apart from a couple of rescue goldfish years ago.

harrigran Mon 07-Mar-22 20:15:41

Oh, and it is seven years since I had a holiday and we went by train not plane.