So now we have Deltacron.

I would agree, it is not complacency, but after 2 years of lockdown, we have to learn to live with the disease, as we live with many other illnesses and diseases that could be fatal to some, but not to others.

Even before COVID, those who were particularly vulnerable had to limit what they did and where they went to avoid infection. In many ways COVID has made it easier for such people to protect their vulnerability, no one blinks at seeing someone in a mask, or even gloves, or sanitising their hands.

Here is a link to one of several news outlets reporting this week that flu was now more deadly than COVID. www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc59b.

It is the question of deaths as a proportion of people catching a disease. You are far more likely to die if you catch flu than if you catch COVID. Far fewer people are getting flu, but they are proportionately more likely to die.

Then I don’t understand this growstuff?
www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-variants-identified-in-the-uk

Even before COVID, those who were particularly vulnerable had to limit what they did and where they went to avoid infection.
I was careful but didn't avoid living my life as I wanted to and didn't expect others to accommodate me by restricting theirs.

I do wish those who are not CV would keep telling me how I think and what I do.

maddyone
As you were so ill with Covid you have more reason than many to understand the consequences and yes, our lives our different.
I hope you can go out to New Zealand before too long.
Thank goodness my DD just missed the floods otherwise I would have been going out there come what may!

Thank you, M0nica.

Sorry, M0nica, I apologise for being stroppy, but there are a lot of people who do talk about CV people as if they are a separate species.

But M0nica didn't, calli.

I didn't say she did.
But there are many on here who do.

But there are many on here who do.

So mention it when they do, not when a poster who doesn't says something sensible.

If you say so.

Thanks Callistemon and I hope you can get out to Australia soon too.

I’ve just put a Victoria sponge in the oven as my son, his partner and our grandson are coming for tea tonight (very civilised, little sandwiches, scones and cake) and tomorrow our other son and his wife are coming for lunch. We must all take whatever restricted pleasures life offers to us to be happy now.

We did go out for a lunch yesterday with friends.
Life is opening up a bit more, but I'm reluctant to fly for many reasons.

No, MOnica, you are not far more likely to die if you catch flu than if you catch Covid. The difference is not statistically significant and you are far more likely to catch Covid in the first place.

If people want to live with the disease, their best bet is to try and avoid catching it, which means wearing a mask, avoiding enclosed spaces with a lot of people around and staying away from others if you know (or strongly suspect) you're infected.

If you had flu or a really bad cold you should do the same, of course.

growstuff

If people want to live with the disease, their best bet is to try and avoid catching it, which means wearing a mask, avoiding enclosed spaces with a lot of people around and staying away from others if you know (or strongly suspect) you're infected.

Agreed. This is the only way to do it.

Callistemon21

If you had flu or a really bad cold you should do the same, of course.

Indeed! That's probably why there have been fewer cases of influenza this winter. Maybe it's time we realised that contagious diseases aren't inevitable.

Callistemon21

If you had flu or a really bad cold you should do the same, of course.

And I agree with this. No one wants to catch flu or a streaming cold and the least anyone can do if infected with these or Covid is to stay at home. This is why I’m so cross with the government for releasing all restrictions. The legal requirement to stay at home for five days, and then test negative twice, is the restriction that I’m most annoyed about losing. People can go out knowing they’ve got Covid and they’re doing nothing illegal. They should be (doing something that’s illegal.)

Although we didn't wear masks as a matter of routine.

What is the test for flu? If you couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to pick up a £50 note.
Many people say they have flu when it's a bad cold.

Jaxjacky

Then I don’t understand this growstuff?
www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-variants-identified-in-the-uk

What don't you understand?

This is the latest briefing:

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1060337/Technical-Briefing-38-11March2022.pdf

One granddaughter has been off school (as her teacher had Covid - and it seems like there is always one class at home due to staff shortages).

She's back now, but her sister has the nasty sickness bug that's also circulating at school. Perhaps it's Norovirus as it's very infectious.

Meanwhile, all through this, my daughter is supposed to be working, often going in when their father gets home.

Callistemon21

Although we didn't wear masks as a matter of routine.

What is the test for flu? If you couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to pick up a £50 note.
Many people say they have flu when it's a bad cold.

Exactly! I don't know how fatality rates for flu have been estimated. If they're self-reported cases, many of the cases will be colds, so the fatality rate will seem lower.

Thank you OakDryad. I knew I'd read that somewhere, but I was too lazy to find the link again.

There’s a test they do, swab like for covid, so it’s laboratory diagnosed cases of flu that are recorded.