The Queen.

elegran made an interesting post about how older people used to work hard and get nothing back, as if that is justification for the queen working into her nineties.

I'm sorry I'll never accept that it is praiseworthy to keep doing the things she is doing, preventing the monarchy from moving on into the 21st century and perpetuating the idea that older people are paragons of service and duty.

I don't have anything to be grateful to her for, really. Do I?

(hard hat on)

This isn't about 'how hard life was for old people' volver, though I could certainly swap stories with you from my own family in the days when they worked until they dropped and might qualify for a loaf of bread from the parish but had to wear a badge on their clothes - P for Pauper. When they were buried the vicar noted them as a 'pauper' in the registers. It's about dedicating your whole life to service regardless of what you would really rather do with it. Service of rude and ungrateful people as well as of those who appreciate it.

Nah, eating breakfast.

It passes the time...

volver are you bored?

One of my gg-grandfathers worked in a tannery till he was in his eighties, another died off Spitzbergen aged 66, working on a whaler.

I don't need lessons on how hard life was for old people, thanks Elegran.

Oh, I'm going to be unpopular, apologies in advance...

I've learnt a lot about duty and service from people in my own family, who have gone above and beyond many times. I'm not having lessons in duty from someone who has spent her life shaking hands, making small talk, signing documents over which she has no input (allegedly) and living in a series of palaces.

The Dean of Westminster's words:

"...we also thank God for her faithfulness and commit ourselves to learn from an example of duty and service."

Amen

volver

Germanshepherdsmum

I doubt many people expect her to keep working at her age volver. She expects it of herself.

Because she believes she's indespensable.

Because we keep telling her how much we need her.

Because we keep telling her how wonderful she is to keep "working"

Because she believes she made promise to God, that God expects her to be Queen till she drops.

It's not healthy.

Perfectly healthy, if it is what she wants and she can do it.

Until comparatively recently, no-one retired. They couldn't afford to, If you didn't work, you didn't get paid, so unless they had saved a good nest egg for your old age they did whatever they could either to keep the money coming in or to keep the home or farm operating.

They kept going until they keeled over - old grannies sitting by the fire still kept spinning the wool to clothe their families, old men (and old women) still worked in the fields until their joints made it impossible, doctors and lawyers were still advising their clients or delivering babies well into old age. Meanwhile the oldies told the youngsters how they ought to be doing it (whether the youngsters were grateful for this advice is questionable).

The old age pension for people aged 70 or over only came into effect on January 1st 1909, and you could only receive this pension if you were deemed of "good character"

Do you learn nothing from ‘an example of duty and service’ volver?

we also thank God for her faithfulness and commit ourselves to learn from an example of duty and service.

Not all of us.

The Queen's message to mark Commonwealth Day:

" In this year of my Platinum Jubilee, it has given me pleasure to renew the promise I made in 1947, that my life will always be devoted in service."

The Dean of Westminster's words:

"...we also thank God for her faithfulness and commit ourselves to learn from an example of duty and service."

She should be free to lead her life as she chooses. As always happens, one persons choice is not the choice someone else would make, but they should still be allowed to make their own decisions.

Heaven help anyone who tries to tell me what to do should I reach my 90s. My father did and led the life he chose, not the life anyone thought he should live.

Yes, that's right, that's what we've all been saying.

That's not making stuff up at all.

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Freedom of choice for anyone in their nineties GSM ? They need to be in homes, and certainly not allowed to vote in any
elections, wills made must be ignored , all rights must be taken from them,

Germanshepherdsmum

I doubt many people expect her to keep working at her age volver. She expects it of herself.

Because she believes she's indespensable.

Because we keep telling her how much we need her.

Because we keep telling her how wonderful she is to keep "working"

Because she believes she made promise to God, that God expects her to be Queen till she drops.

It's not healthy.

I doubt many people expect her to keep working at her age volver. She expects it of herself.

She is 95, her husband died less than a year ago and she has just had COVID. Is it remarkable that she is currently having mobility problems?

After having COVID, I think she should have cancelled all engagements, including the 2 minute ones, for three months at least and concentrated on recovering.

A 2 minute phone hello counts as an “engagement” in royal speak. How do we know that she doesn’t want to be seen in a wheelchair? Is it because she ( or more likely her advisors) don’t want to destroy the mystique of the position that she is somehow a quasi deity / not like other mortals which is the medieval view of the monarch. Or maybe she is just too unwell to go out and about - who knows, whatever it won’t stop the speculation.

volver

Lucca

Here’s a HOS …..
For you Volver
m.youtube.com/watch?v=PKHGp1XPv48&fbclid=IwAR3x7FLAXYJLAhf-h5s4jWEehHSI8p2v5paRde6ndfF-xWbCZ2uISQ8XC2s

ooohh....

Like you needed any more reasons to “admire” this man !

Oh yes, I understand. Agreed.

making a woman in her 90s go out to work for God when she cant walk anymore!

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elderly abuse

I seem to have lost the ability to type...but you know what I mean...

Thatnk maddyone

One of sentences doesn't make sense though, what I meant was:

And only the Republicans monarchists that think a woman in her mid nineties needs to be bound by something she said 70 years ago?