The Queen.

‘It’s a funny way to run a country’. Your words volver.

Yes. My words.

Did you not understand them?

You’re right Annie. And they might become loose cannons, very dangerous.

You may not have said what you meant volver.

Or said what you meant.

Despite all indications to the contrary, we are still a democracy. So "the people" decide how the country will be run. And we have agreed to live in a system whereby a person who has been the HoS for 70 years, purely because of who her ancestors were, gets to decide what the responsibilities of a HoS are, and what she can pass on to another person who is only there because of who his ancestors are.

That's what we've agreed is a good way to run the country. .

If this was a Developing Country we'd think they had a long way to go.

I think the Queen has become very frail recently She’s had covid recently and that probably hasn’t helped. I thought it looked like she’d lost a lot of weight and she’s very hunched over. My mil was like that and she has osteoporosis which had caused little fractures in her spine. It’s sad seeing the Queen looking so frail suddenly isn’t it. Getting old is horrible. ?

Why all the fuss?
The Queen has decided she is not able to attend the Commonwealth service therefore Prince Charles is taking her place, as he will in due course anyway.
I have every faith in the Queen's judgement; she knows what she is capable of doing and what to relinquish.

The alternative is worse

Sorry eazybee my reply was regards ‘getting old is horrible’

I don't defer to people just because of who their ancestors are.

Maybe you do.

volver

Anniebach

Agree Elegran such intolerance for the aged , it’s frightening

Do you mean the post above you Anniebach?

I imagine Anniebach was agreeing with my post at 12:51:19
"I can't imagine her becoming a loose cannon, at any age." Between that and her post was only CarlyD7's at 12:53:57 - less than 3 seconds after mine, so Anniebach wouldn't have seen it.

It looks as though she has lost a great deal of weight since his death.

I understand Elegran

Just pointing out that we're not allowed to say the Queen might not have the mental acuity she once had but we can comment on the mental state of other countries' Heads of State if we like.

I hope no one is thinking that I don’t tolerate old people just because I think the Queen should retire. I have a 94 year old mother. I have done everything I can to ensure she is cared for and well looked after. After my father died I helped her to move close to us. We, my husband and I, did everything we could , shopping, taking her to medical appointments, repairs, daily visiting. Everything! After her three falls last year. two bleeds on her brain, and a broken shoulder, she was no longer able to live in her sheltered apartment. We found the very best care home we could (we wouldn’t have put a dog in some we saw.) Now we visit almost every day, buy whatever she needs, organise everything for her.

She wasn’t a very good mother. She has narcissistic traits. She often shouts at me or tells me things I should have done differently. She prefers my sister but is wise enough to know that my sister wouldn’t do half of what I do.

This is relevant because I won’t have it said that I don’t tolerate old age. I believe the Queen should retire because she can’t fulfill her duties and because everyone deserves to retire. It’s not like we haven’t got someone waiting in the wings.

She's really old. She's not been well. She has a routine older than most of us on here!! She's not a "normal" person! She sounds as if she's basically retiring by stealth! I don't blame her, her kids are a disgrace apart from Anne. One of her DGS is a spoilt little tosspot hell Bent on ruining what looks possibly to be her last reigning year. I'm full of admiration for how she's resisted screaming "Orff with their bloody heads!!!!" She wants to do what she wants for a change!

What duties has she ceased to fulfill maddy ? And should she retire because some think she should because of her age ?

Big difference to you saying ‘she should retire’ to ‘she could be
a loose cannon’.

Mummer you think a divorce is a disgrace, and what has Edward done to disgrace his mother ?

That's what we've agreed is a good way to run the country.

But volver, she doesn't "run the country".

Mummer - are your adult children beyond reproach? Your judgemental approach could well have many of us dismissed as having disgraceful children.
I don’t claim mine as perfect but I’ll love and support them as best I can. I suspect I’m a bit like the Queen in that (caveat - I draw the line at Andrew)

Anniebach just come back. If you are in a wheelchair it shouldn’t mean you can’t go out anywhere. A wheelchair is an enabling device. Plenty of people have to use them. My son did for many years.

There are special adapted vehicles you can use to get in and out of whilst still seated in the wheelchair. There are wheelchairs that enable you to stand. All very expensive but then the Queen isn’t short of a bob or two. It would be wonderful for disabled people everywhere. If, however, it isn’t that the Queen doesn’t want to use one, but that she doesn’t feel up to long ceremonies then that’s a different thing altogether.

I also wonder what duties she isn’t fulfilling. She’s been seen meeting people in the last few days. We know that she also has zoom meetings. She has recorded a message for today’s service. There’s no suggestion that she isn’t attending to her red boxes every day. So many allegations simply because she isn’t attending a church service.

Maddy

Sparklefizz

^That's what we've agreed is a good way to run the country.^

But volver, she doesn't "run the country".

I answered this misunderstanding of my post upthread. 13:30.

Dempie55

I think she is perhaps becoming more frail mentally. She is 95, and, despite people saying that she is still sharp as a tack, I doubt this is true. I fear she may be a bit of a loose cannon in public.

Rude.

My mother is a year younger than the queen, still living in her own home with no carers. I’d be prepared to put money on my mother being more on the ball about most things than 95% of the population.