Gaudy peacocks at Prince Phillip’s memorial service

eazybee Thank you for answering my question.

Anniebach sorry!

Pecs me defend Johnson? ? ?

anniebach ahh..understood

Anniebach

Yes PECS in no way was I defending Johnson, just a reminder
to grany that when we have a vote we can have a PM without
morals or the ability to speak the truth as we now have.

And we can vote him out.

Unlike...

Oh, never mind.

Yes PECS in no way was I defending Johnson, just a reminder
to grany that when we have a vote we can have a PM without
morals or the ability to speak the truth as we now have.

Oh I know. But I was hoping for a James O'Brien moment

volver

And yet...he is a suspected sexual predator who had to pay $12million of what might have been his mum's money, to avoid a court case

So who else in the RF is worse than that? What could possibly be worse than that?

Oh I think we all know who is meant !

PECS
have I misunderstood your post? Yes.

anniebach so was Putin .....

Just because someone wins an election does not make them above the law or a good & decent person and certainly does not mean they cannot be criticised!

And can be voted out again.

And will be.

The PM was voted in

Prince Andrew walking the Queen into Westminster Abbey is a slap in the face for victims of sexual abuse & proof (if ever needed) that the elite think they live under different rules.

The monarchy must go- it is central to maintaining class division.

Some people just don't see what an insult to the country this is, the 'I can do what I want' no consequences, we see it in out PM, privilege, elitism...knows no limits...yet the rest of are going to struggle, so long as this attitude remains equality is a joke

mollygo no real idea what you are on about!

Are you suggesting it is OK for families to pay to avoid a court conviction because society should not fund prisons?

If my son assaulted someone it would be better for me to pay a sum of money so I did not have to face the embarrassment of my beloved child facing a conviction? Is that what you are suggesting..or have I misunderstood your post?

Nobody without some level of guilt pays that amount of money to avoid a court case. If he is as innocent as some believe he would have had his day in court. For the queen to strip him of his various titles etc. & fund part of the settlement was public acknowledgement that the RF have details of what unpleasantness would have come out in court.

To say it was not a high profile role ..you're having a laugh! Escorting the Queen of England in a highly televised and hyped up event seen across the world

Of course Prince Philip's family & close friends have every right to mourn him and have a memorial service for him. But this was a state occasion and very public. The queen will have intended that having Andrew escort her to be a way of 'rehabilitating' his public image.

OK, this is getting weird...

If we’re going to talk about paying- how many convicted criminals are we paying for to keep them incarcerated?
I’m not looking at guilty or innocent here. That involves the US version of justice.

I’ve read on here, though I don’t personally know, that HM paid or contributed to Andrews fees. If she did, then she had the choice whether to do that or not.
Unless she has no money of her own, she paid. How many of us have a choice about paying for bed and board for convicted criminals?

And yet...he is a suspected sexual predator who had to pay $12million of what might have been his mum's money, to avoid a court case

So who else in the RF is worse than that? What could possibly be worse than that?

Just noticed that the Queen was walking with a thumb stick. That won't give her much support. If she has such mobility problems that she needs a stick she should have one of the right length and with a good hand grasp.

volver

^There are far worse people connected to the RF than Prince Andrew.^

Give us a clue...who is worse than a suspected sexual predator who had to pay $12million of what might have been his mum's money, to avoid a court case?

“Suspected” being an important word here. Twitter and the lower end of the press suspect him. Not convicted, not even charged.

FGS *this was *not a private family occasion but a state one & presumably funded with some public money.

It was a very deliberate act of public support for Andrew which is perfectly permissable. However, as an experienced and high profile public figure HM knows what she is doing and will be prepared for those of us who think it was too soon and be seen as a bit of a F-you to victims of sexual exploitation. She won't care anyway what I think!

There are far worse people connected to the RF than Prince Andrew.

Give us a clue...who is worse than a suspected sexual predator who had to pay $12million of what might have been his mum's money, to avoid a court case?

Agree Jabberwok

FGS, Prince A drew escorted his elderly bereaved mother from her car to her seat, he then did it in reverse, hardly high profile! He is her son and she loves him, as most of us do. He didn't push himself forward in any way just an act of kindness between mother and son at a memorial for her dead husband and his dead father. Prince Andrew has never ever trashed the RF, given interviews that were total lies about the RF, and never refused the Queen sight of his children causing her much heartache. There are far worse people connected to the RF than Prince Andrew.

I regard myself as "religious but not christian" so I have no strong feelings about the various churches and their vestments. Ive often had long debates with people of different faiths about their beliefs.

I enjoyed what I saw of the service and all the dignitaries arriving. I was impressed by the young woman who won the DofE gold award as I always am by people who come from a non privilaged background and who make their own opportunities.

One of the interviwees said that the tie he wore in dark green with diagonal stripe had been designed by Prince Philip for his staff. It was being worn by many of his old staff members and for that reason has been chosen by some of the women, including HM.