Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

We do do these things WELL! All others look tacky beside us!!

Mallin

Afraid I would have much preferred to see Prince Charles escorting his mother.

But then Camilla would have had to walk in on her own.
To me, apart from the Queen (we assume) sending out her own message about Andrew, he was the obvious choice as he doesn’t have a partner, well, not one he could bring with him.

Surely we all know the bachelor son who accompanies his mother, takes her shopping etc.

Not that I am suggesting the Queen and Andrew go shopping together….

Can I just be clear, HannahLoisLuke, that I was quoting someone else regarding what the Queen thinks. None of us have any idea what the Queen thinks.

So I won't be jumping to conclusions about what the Queen thinks about Harry's behaviour. And what's more, I have seen no indication that Andrew insisted they travel together in the royal car. Or that the Queen’s sense of propriety and protocol would have ruled it out.

We all have an image of who we think the Queen is, how she thinks, how her family behave, who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. And it's all conjecture, it's all speculation.

volver

Another Republican view...

In some people's opinions, the Queen still loves her second son, who may be a sexual predator (allegedly), but she doesn't have any time for her grandson who is a former army officer who started the Invictus Games and clearly puts his wife and children first.

Funny old world.

We don’t know that the Queen has no time for Harry. It’s been reported that they often speak on the phone or FaceTime. However if in fact she isn’t pleased with him perhaps it’s because he trashed the whole family on the Oprah Winfrey interview,
I’m going to go against the general feeling here regarding Prince Andrew. He should certainly have been present at his fathers memorial but I really don’t think he should have accompanied the Queen to her seat. Yes at a private family occasion but no on such a public state occasion, attended by foreign heads of state. It looked like he was trying to worm his way back into a public position, especially as he’d insisted they travel together in the royal car. I thought the Queen’s sense of propriety and protocol would have ruled it out.

I thought P A and Sarah Ferguson were more or less back together as a family. But as a son of the great Prince Phillip, he should be there, anyway. Matter of respect.

She must have wanted Prince Andrew. Good for her!

Afraid I would have much preferred to see Prince Charles escorting his mother.

Thought the Queen was amazing! At her age to go through that experience sitting alone was very brave of her & being escorted by Prince Andrew said a lot about family! No matter what our children do we still care for them for the things we see in them that outsiders do not! It was a service for his father also so respect there! I felt like climbing through the tv to get to her & give her a big hug, lovely fantastic lady!

Yes, it was a lovely service

Was a lovely service and one I think Prince Philip would have enjoyed!
The inclusion of members of his family from young to old was as it should be, including Prince Andrew - who can actually say that he has no right to be at a memorial service for his own father, whatever he has or has not done in the past?
It was a shame that Harry at least wasn't there - but considering the travel involved, I can understand why. It will possibly reverberate on him in future years that he wasn't there, but it isn't up to any of us to say what is right or wrong?
When all is said and done, they are a family like all of us. Hands up any one that can honestly say they haven't had a fall out between members at some point!

snowberryZ

Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.

The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?

It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree.

Other than that, it was a lovely service.

Do you not think that PH would have discussed his reasons with The Queen.

They left the firm/the job. They did not leave the family.

They both said they talk with the Queen regularly last year on Oprah by video link as they do other family.

Eugine and her husband were out staying with H & M a couple of months ago so they are hardly none contact

I didn't watch th eservice but have seen numerous newspaper reports and pictures. Such a shame that so many of them put Andrew front and centre. Yes, he should have been there, no, he should not have held such a prominent position. Also thought it quite intrusive to show coverage of the Queen with eyes closed in prayer.

The Queen probably wished he was there, but as far as I could see (I only saw snippets of it and will watch later) it all went off very nicely regardless.

Harry chose not to attend because he believed he was not accorded police protection commensurate with his rank, which again he chose to relinquish.

Dickens you are right.
The Queen has a quiet dignity and has always had an unwavering sense of duty and loyalty, both to her family and the public.
That's why she's so admired.

Yes it all went off wonderfully as expected but I was disappointed by the BBC commentary, I am sure Mr Dimbleby would have know who was who and could have saved us guessing. Amazed to see so many foreign royalty in the paper this morning, I don't think they were mentioned, unless it was when I popped out the room.

Relevant to his granny yes and that is something he will have on his own conscience.
But not relevant to the proceedings.

Be very dull on an opinion forum if we all regurgitated the same story so as not to offend those who think that calling people out for making up stories about minor royals means that we admire Harry and Meghan. .

Be very dull on an opinion forum if we all regurgitated the same story so as not to offend those who admire Harry and Meghan’s behaviour so much.

Callistemon - I agree, if H had arrived, or visits in future, I can’t imagine his grandmother being anything other than pleased. Her track record is one of continuing love for family, like most of us

It was a lovely memorial service, I so enjoyed the hymns

And yes, a grandson is relevant.

Vanessa59

Why focus on Harry? He was not at all notable by his absence, he is irrelevant. Far more engaging personalities in the front rows.
It just shows people looking for something of no substance.

I wasn't.
It was just a response to the comments of others which assumed he was persona non grata.
I think he would have been very welcomed by his grandmother, but he is old enough to make up his own mind what to do.

Why focus on Harry? He was not at all notable by his absence, he is irrelevant. Far more engaging personalities in the front rows.
It just shows people looking for something of no substance.

Inevitable that H and M bashing is alive and well.