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Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

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snowberryZ Tue 29-Mar-22 17:29:17

Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.

The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?shock

It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree. hmm

Other than that, it was a lovely service.

Anniebach Sun 03-Apr-22 15:11:21

Compassion must be reserved for private memorial services,
if public then ‘let’s mock snd jeer’.

PECS Sun 03-Apr-22 15:01:19

If the family really wanted a family memorial for " their loved one" they have access to several private chapels where they could have done what most of us do..have a tearful ,sad & happy service crying & laughing remembering special things together with others who loved the deceased.

This was not really the same thing. This was a very public, formal state occasion ..a national event not a private family do!
I'm sure PPs wife, children/ grandchildren were sad..it had only been a year since his death but please stop pretending the public were gatecrashing a private service!

Anniebach Sun 03-Apr-22 14:49:07

At a memorial service to a loved one

Parsley3 Sun 03-Apr-22 14:48:06

The Queen didn’t look amazing, she looked grief stricken. Phillip has been denied the ceremony of a full state funeral due to Covid restrictions and his memorial service was shortened due to circumstances. Even I feel that he has been somewhat short changed.
I do wish that Andrew had not crooked his arm in such an awkward fashion. It looked oddly formal.

Tina49 Sun 03-Apr-22 14:45:23

eazybee

Why should anyone think they have the right to interfere in the arrangements of the memorial service of the Queen's husband, or anybody else's?

They are public figures and, as such, should expect their actions or lifestyles to be commented upon - by the people they allegedly serve.

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 14:19:08

Grany

Philips Memorial Service

Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein’s abuse, said: “It’s not just an insult to the victims – it’s a complete insult towards humanity.”

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648925616

That is a good article Grany.

nadateturbe Sun 03-Apr-22 14:14:17

Quote from DM
The Dean of Westminster had been expected to take the Monarch to her seat while the Prince followed behind, according to the order of service.

Apparently Andrew will accompany her to the races.

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 14:05:09

eazybee

You may feel entitled to ask questions about Beatrice's suitability for her job, although I would have thought that was the province of the people who employ her and /or pay her salary, but raising it in a thread commenting on a 'Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip' is not the appropriate place as it has no relevance to the topic under discussion.

Things said on this lovely 15-page thread about the memorial service:

Usual M&H attacks. Repeatedly.
Other countries' ceremonies look tacky compared to ours.
How PP wouldn't have been impressed with Harry.
Bit of sarcasm and name calling directed at Drakeford.
Opining that Republicans might as well go and live in Russia.

So wondering about someone's job seems quite tame, by comparison.

eazybee Sun 03-Apr-22 13:49:01

Why should anyone think they have the right to interfere in the arrangements of the memorial service of the Queen's husband, or anybody else's?

eazybee Sun 03-Apr-22 13:38:02

You may feel entitled to ask questions about Beatrice's suitability for her job, although I would have thought that was the province of the people who employ her and /or pay her salary, but raising it in a thread commenting on a 'Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip' is not the appropriate place as it has no relevance to the topic under discussion.

FannyCornforth Sun 03-Apr-22 13:25:25

Grany that’s more like it for disciplined and rigorous research! wink

Grany Sun 03-Apr-22 13:21:21

Philips Memorial Service

Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein’s abuse, said: “It’s not just an insult to the victims – it’s a complete insult towards humanity.”

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648925616

FannyCornforth Sun 03-Apr-22 13:19:32

Annie I heard it somewhere on Radio 4 , can’t remember exactly what on.

I don’t read the papers at the moment.

When I said ‘I believe’, I meant that ‘I’m led to believe’.

I didn’t realise that we needed to name our sources now.
Do we have an editorial style which we have to follow?

Anniebach Sun 03-Apr-22 13:04:42

Nothing wrong in repeating what is in the press, perhaps best to mention ‘the Daily whichever claimed ‘

sodapop Sun 03-Apr-22 12:33:44

Our politicians are hardly in a position to criticise Andrew Grany given the sleazy behaviour we have seen from a lot of them

FannyCornforth Sun 03-Apr-22 12:32:04

Anniebach

That was reported in the press !

Have I done something wrong - again?

Gilly3 Sun 03-Apr-22 12:31:02

I would not have expected any of my sons to not accompany their children under 18 years with their wives at my DH's funeral. They come as a family and the children need the support of both parents.

Anniebach Sun 03-Apr-22 12:28:07

That was reported in the press !

FannyCornforth Sun 03-Apr-22 12:25:57

I believe that the original arrangement was that The Dean of Westminster was to escort HM.
And that the change of plan wasn’t a popular one.

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 12:24:58

Edward could have helped The Queen and Sophie would have entered with her two children.

Bridgeit Sun 03-Apr-22 12:23:01

This is true Volver, however it is mannerly & considerate to assist anyone of any age who may or may not for what ever reason be a little wobbly on there feet , or just have lost a bit of confidence in their physical body…… our time will come !

Gilly3 Sun 03-Apr-22 12:19:42

Having seen the Queen so lonely and isolated from her family at the proper funeral, the last thing anyone wanted would have been to see her enter the church by herself with no family. Charles might have been an option but maybe he had to do all the pleasantries and hand shaking down the other end of the Abbey.

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 12:12:18

Newsflash.

Women can enter churches by themselves, if they are not elderly and infirm, and in need of support.

Anniebach Sun 03-Apr-22 12:08:54

She has three sons, two married and accompanied by their wives , one son single so accompanied her. Common sense .

Charles accompanied her, who accompanies his wife, same with Edward .

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 11:47:55

effalump

I think she did the right thing getting Andrew to walk with her. It's almost like she was saying" I've given over 70 years of my life to the UK, now I'm giving myself to my favourite son, so sod off!" Good for her, and she believes in her son, as a Mother should.

Or, alternatively,

"I'm going to show my son off to the world and give him preferential treatment even although he's brought scandal on the monarchy and is (allegedly) involved in all kinds of nefarious dealings"

"And there's not a thing you can do about that, plebs. So narf off."