How will you make savings to pay for energy bills.

I need to train DH to do what I already do - do as many jobs requiring hot tap water one straight after the other.
A minimum of half a bucket of cold water has to be run off before the hot water comes through to the tap - that is half a bucketful of water the immersion will have to re-heat. If we can do the breakfast washing-up, then each take our showers one after the other, the latter two will be done using hot water that is already in the pipes, so at least a bucketful less of hot water will be saved.
Oh, and that run-off cold water will be used for flushing the toilet, so saving on the water bill too.

Personally, I nearly always use the cold tap for washing my hands too. The water already in the pipe is at room temp., just like the cold tap, so warm enough for most hand washing. DH, on the other hand, uses the hot tap but also does the actual washing with the toom temp water in the pipes. In other words, he wastes hot water even though he isn't using it, and it has too be reheated too!

Is there a Barbara Woodhouse for husbands out there?

I found this money saving article at Which useful.

www.which.co.uk/news/2022/01/22-ways-to-save-and-make-money-in-2022/

I agree. A potentially helpful thread ruined by a few selfish immature people who have nothing better to do with their time.

That's really very rude.

kissngate

This thread could have been useful and informative. However due to others taking over it's now a childish tit for tat slanging match. If you want to discuss child poverty or food banks start your own thread and argue amongst yourselves. I wish GN would remove every single post off topic then I could find useful energy saving tips. Some of you have spoilt what could have been a great thread.

I agree. A potentially helpful thread ruined by a few selfish immature people who have nothing better to do with their time.

Shame on them.

Mornington Crescent.

The problem (or one of them) is that people are hurt by being lumped together, called lazy, feckless, told all manner of things which arent correct, given tips on how to save as if they're too stupid to have already been doing just that for years.

People share their own stories, but others still just barge in with "making excuses? Write a book!"

What people get out of it I can't begin to understand, other than kicking people when they're down.

Anyway, enough from me.
I'm out.

Threads work most smoothly when people don't respond to anything said before, but just add their own comment.



What is it you've just done there Chestnut?

kissngate

This thread could have been useful and informative. However due to others taking over it's now a childish tit for tat slanging match. If you want to discuss child poverty or food banks start your own thread and argue amongst yourselves. I wish GN would remove every single post off topic then I could find useful energy saving tips. Some of you have spoilt what could have been a great thread.

The problem is that someone disagrees with something mentioned in a post and makes a big song and dance about it, starts throwing invented or unpleasant accusations at the poster and away you go! Threads work most smoothly when people don't respond to anything said before, but just add their own comment.

Two tips come out of this thread for you kissngate:

There is also the olio app.
If someone has too much food, they give it away.

A tip for someone who would like to buy fresh fruit and vegetables more cheaply - our local Lidl sells assorted boxes of just-on-the date assorted fruit and veg very cheaply, 5kg for £1.50.

However, they are beyond the tills so look out for them to put in your trolley before you go round the shop!
'^Too Good to Waste^'

This thread could have been useful and informative. However due to others taking over it's now a childish tit for tat slanging match. If you want to discuss child poverty or food banks start your own thread and argue amongst yourselves. I wish GN would remove every single post off topic then I could find useful energy saving tips. Some of you have spoilt what could have been a great thread.

Good post callistemon.

Franbern I'm shocked that you posted that about Charleygirl

What she said was not abusive and we all know of people who do abuse the system - it's not unheard of.
These two women may be doing that although, as I pointed out (politely I hope), they could be delivering food to those who are housebound.
We don't know for sure.

What you posted, however, was abusive towards her and if you'd thought a bit more about it, you'd know that not all of us are in a position to volunteer, Charleygirl being one.

There's a way of pointing things out and I hope I did that kindly.

Your post was extremely rude and unkind and I think you owe her an apology.

I have a friend struggling between heat and food, I hope she can be referred to the foodbank. I have just found this useful link.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/help-if-on-a-low-income/using-a-food-bank/

I saw your comment Charleygirl5. I do not believe it to be true, and consider it dangerous misinformation.

Dickens, just put "the changes poverty makes to thinking" into your chosen search engine. It makes me think that knowingly allowing people to remain in poverty, in a country rich enough to be able to choose not to do so, is an assault.

Obviously, we will now get the DM view of the wickedness of the poor and the judgement of those who share these views.

Charleygirl5

Franbern excuse me but I am not handing out abuse! I find that insulting.

You did use the terms devious pair - and receiving goodies (!!)

Franbern excuse me but I am not handing out abuse! I find that insulting.

It's very, very easy to use.

People often post pics of some marvellous, inventive meals they've made out of others waste (food!)

You don't have to pass anyones judgement on if you should have it.

I think some of the members are trusted to pick up Tesco's surplus too, so there is often fruit and veg, and bread going.

The onus is on the person to come and pick up from you, or from a safe place outside, and any no shows are reported.

Great, isn't it?

MissAdventure

There is also the olio app.
If someone has too much food, they give it away.

I would use every resource I could now, before using a food bank.

... it's an awful way to have to live though. Having to scavenge for your food.

I wonder how much the claimants' health suffers if this goes on for an extended period.

... but thanks for the heads up on OLIO - I'd never heard of them. There are only two of us and my disabled partner sometimes eats little - with the result that I have food left over, and I absolutely hate throwing it away when I know people are going hungry.

There is also the olio app.
If someone has too much food, they give it away.

I would use every resource I could now, before using a food bank.

A tip for someone who would like to buy fresh fruit and vegetables more cheaply - our local Lidl sells assorted boxes of just-on-the date assorted fruit and veg very cheaply, 5kg for £1.50.

However, they are beyond the tills so look out for them to put in your trolley before you go round the shop!
'Too Good to Waste'

Our local food larder is open for all as often as they want/need. Sometimes they post photos of their ‘stock’ and I am tempted to go in because I have never tried heritage carrots etc. think it is mainly funded by wind farm grants. At the moment you have to ring for an appointment but that is just covid. They also cook a meal once a week for which you just pay what you can afford. We are a fairly small couple of remote villages.

I find it hard to believe that the myths surrounding people getting things from foodbanks are alive and well, even in these pages.

Why, on earth are people so ready to be taken in by this sort of nonsense. When I helped out at a food bank, we often had recipients in tears as they were ashamed of needing that help. Amazingly, most users of food banks are people actually in work.

Obviously, people do come in cars and collect bags, they are either professionals or volunteers taking these to those who are unable to leave their homes. Perhaps Charleygirl might like to becoming ne of these volunteers, and then suffer the abuse from others that she hands out.

By the way, if anyone is desperate for food for free they can look up to see if they have a 'fridge for free' in their locality.

At our foodbank, the client can come weekly, up to a maximum of twelve parcels in one year. And yes, loo rolls are much appreciated ?

DaisyAnne Sun 03-Apr-22 17:17:14

Callistemon21

It works the other way too. Locally two ladies were seen to park a Merc or Limo a street away and then had the gall to go into the food bank to pick up a free parcel.

I wonder if they were delivering food parcels to someone unable to go out?

My thoughts too.

Unfortunately, the myth will persist that there are people using food banks who drive 'fancy' cars so are obviously benefit cheats... because someone knows someone else who saw another someone getting out of a 4x4 and going into a food bank and saw that someone come out and drive off, with the bag of food.

Ergo, many people claiming to need food banks don't really need them, they are just - as one lady explained to me - "going in there because it's something for free."

No matter how many times it's explained that you can't just 'pop in' to a food bank like a supermarket, the myth grows and grows. And it is believed because some people want to believe it. They have their own reasons and I can't even be bothered to delve into them. I just find it very depressing that some refuse to accept that there are those in this country living well below the poverty line who are not scrounging nor gaming the system. Even the government's own statistics will show that benefit cheats are a very small minority. The majority would, back in the 19th century, be penniless on the streets or in workhouses, if it wasn't for the welfare net and charity.

Charleygirl5

I thought so too but who knows what this devious pair said and did to get a free bag.

I also thought that anybody receiving goodies from a foodbank could only do it a few times a year and certainly could not do it weekly.

Some get them weekly ...I have a refugee family on my caseload who are unable to claim benefits...they go weekly