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Can I retire when I am fifty-three?

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ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 01:13:09

Would it be realistic for me to retire in three years time, when I will reach 53 years of age?
I was a teacher for many years but a few years ago changed to a lower paid but less stressful/less time consuming civil service job.
I am now mortgage free with a small bungalow and no dependants.
My teachers’ pension will start in ten years time when I am 60 and will start at approx £12,000 together with a lump sum.
My civil service pension will start in 17 years time when I am 67 and currently will start at about £3,000 (I transferred in an old stakeholder pension) and will start at about £4,500 if I stay working another three years.
My state pension is due to start at 67, so in 17 years time, and I will have built up the full NI contributions by then (I need 37 years due to being contracted out).
What I’m not sure is will I be able to manage on my savings & investments between from age 53 to age 60 when the first pension starts, and then to age 67 when the other two pensions kick in?
I’ve got about £400,000 in savings & investments. A quarter of this is in premium bonds & cash ISAs. The rest is in stocks and shares which produce a dividend income of about £6,000 although it’s currently being reinvested.
I don’t have any children so leaving an inheritance isn’t an issue for me.
I feel like I should be able to take the plunge and retire now and live off the investments and savings, but it feels like a big step to take.

Pepper59 Fri 22-Apr-22 11:15:31

No, don't buy a static caravan. They depreciate in value and yes, Ive known folk get their fingers burnt trying to sell them. Just book a caravan holiday when you want one. No hassles.

twinnytwin Fri 22-Apr-22 11:18:45

I retired at 52 - company was offering a voluntary redundancy package and I was able to take my company pension. That was 18 years ago and I've never regretted a single moment. DH was offered a similar package at the same time (different company) so we went for it. As the saying goes, I don't know how I found the time to work!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 22-Apr-22 11:31:23

You may only be about half way through your life!
I retired at 62 from a very stressful job which involved a two hour each way commute. My head was always full of work stuff and I really enjoy being retired and having time to myself, deciding my own schedule. But your job doesn’t sound like that and you’re some years younger than I was.
My enjoyment of retirement comes purely from the absence of stress and other people’s demands 24/7. I have a husband so am not alone. I really couldn’t face the prospect of perhaps upwards of half a century alone spending my time as you describe. Have you thought about the long, dark winter months? In your circumstances I would want to work for a good many more years, perhaps not five day weeks, and get some absorbing hobbies under my belt before stopping work.

Shinamae Fri 22-Apr-22 11:36:38

I still work part time, I am 69 but with my state pension and my earnings I still live on less than £15,000 a year..

Doodledog Fri 22-Apr-22 12:02:30

Only you know you, and whether your plans would delight or appal others doesn’t matter. What I will say, however, is that there is a huge difference between being off work for a week or two and enjoying ‘chilling’, and seeing it stretch ahead for the rest of your life.

I retired at 57 with a similar pension to you (not as much in savings), and haven’t regretted it. I learnt that I do need some structure, though - as much as I loved pottering when I was working, I was only doing it on a short-term basis, and as a permanent prospect it soon lost its appeal grin. It’s easy enough to do something about that, though - I’ve taken courses, joined groups and so on, so I have less ‘time on my hands’, without having to set an alarm. There are things I miss about work, but I do part-time lecturing/consultancy which ‘keeps my hand in’, and keeps me in touch with others in my profession without the stress or responsibility.

On another note, I agree that static caravans are a money pit. We have one, and I love going to it. It’s great having our own things over there, and having the freedom to come and go when we feel like it, but in the past few years the atmosphere on sites has altered because of so-called ‘staycations’ making them very profitable for park owners. They make a fortune from selling new ‘lodges’ (posh caravans!) and will often try to find ways of getting existing owners to leave, so that they can sell their pitch to a new buyer. Contracts usually specify that you have to sell back to the park (or pay them a high percentage of a private sale). You lose tens of thousands if this happens, and there is always a rule that you have to ‘upgrade’ your lodge when it hits a certain age, even if it’s in great condition. Also, rent is expensive (and remember there is also insurance, fuel and various other costs to consider), so you will probably find that you want to get your money’s worth and won’t go elsewhere very often. I would buy one now, unless some sort of legal regulation comes in, as park owners can do as they please as it is. Ours is 5 years old, but we’ve been on the site for 25 years. I’d really miss it after all this time, but financially they are a disaster.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 12:04:31

Thanks everyone for all the comments, they are really giving me food for thought.
At the moment I do enjoy my job. I am working from home Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm with brilliant computer kit which I have set up in the dining room with a proper computer chair. I love it because I can completely control my work environment a home. Also I can completely switch off from work in evenings and weekends, and now solely use the dining room as a work space.
To be honest the thought of having to go to the office to work fills me with dread. So long as I can carry on working from home I’d be happy to carry on like this for another ten years. But if I have to go to the office to work the idea of retiring will be very tempting.
By the way I’m on annual leave at the moment so I’m not slacking off while working from home! I’ve had a lovely time tidying up the garden, reading on my kindle, watching films, and also stayed a few days with some relatives.

Mapleleaf Fri 22-Apr-22 12:30:20

I think that if you are still enjoying your job ( which you say you are), then continue with it for a while longer, maybe changing to part time at some future date to give you more of a feel of what retirement could be like for you.

You seem concerned that you might have to return to the office - has this been suggested or is it just something you think could happen? Perhaps a conversation with your boss or HR could put your mind at rest about this. It might be that it suits them for you to be at home.

The advice to seek the expertise of a reputable financial advisor is a very sensible one - they will be able to advise you on your options.

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you can reach a solution that you know will suit you. As another poster said, only you know what will make you happy. One persons idea of what to do in retirement will be another persons idea of hell, so go with your own instinct on this, once you’ve got answers to all your questions from professionals who can give you answers or at least options to consider.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 13:06:13

Thanks for all your comments, they are helping me clarify things in my mind.
I’m hopeful that I will be able to continue to work from home and just go into the office occasionally for collaborative work with colleagues. At some point I will have to go in every work day for a block of about 12 weeks to do some training, but then should be able to go back to working from home again.
Unfortunately I keep making the mistake of browsing the DailyMail online. I think either the owners or their cronies have a vested interest in city centre commercial office space and overpriced city centre coffee shops and sandwich shops, as they are always running stories bashing work from home, which makes me anxious.

MerylStreep Fri 22-Apr-22 13:20:02

A friend of mine did this for some years after retiring early

www.trustedhousesitters.com/house-and-pet-sitting-assignments/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpImTBhCmARIsAKr58cxITQ6CjBVwJRCvOiVeQJwJQNZyjMNouFvjlaBl0EGx2qMCpyPL9QsaAjTrEALw_wcB

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 13:30:05

Tuesday DailyMail online bashed work from home with an article by or reporting on Rees-Mogg, whose personal trust fund is apparently invested in city centre commercial property. Wednesday they ran an anti wfh article by a someone who turned out to be an investor in overpriced city centre eateries. Yesterday they ran a story saying wfh would ruin your marriage (doesn’t apply to me being single). Today they are running an anti wfh story saying working from home will allow the Russians to get us. Someone clarified that the DailyMail holding company is in fact invested in city centre commercial and office space.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 22-Apr-22 13:35:24

Keep away from the Daily Mail. I assume they don’t employ you and in all probability your employer doesn’t read the DM.

silverlining48 Fri 22-Apr-22 13:48:43

Ha haha, DM can never be relied on for an honest, balanced report. Ignore fir sure.
Frightened the life of my mum who believed every word it printed. Doom and gloom. Dreadful paper.

silverlining48 Fri 22-Apr-22 13:49:18

Shameful too.

Luckygirl3 Fri 22-Apr-22 13:57:17

If you are going to retire - which sounds exactly the right thing to do - please stop buying the DM - that will blight your retirement no end!!

I find it odd that anyone might think that retiring and having time as your own might be purposeless and justify being at work when you do not need to be. As OP has said getting involved with NT etc. is rewarding and purposeful without the pressure.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 13:57:53

Thanks. Unfortunately I got a bit addicted to browsing the DailyMail online and need to break the habit. It was like forbidden fruit. Or so bad it’s good. I know it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

JenniferEccles Fri 22-Apr-22 14:09:09

Along with all the good suggestions already made I would like to ask if you had thought of using your £400,000 savings to buy a property to let out as an additional income and future growth?
As you are considering retiring in your early fifties you could well have another forty years to live so it’s essential to ensure that you don’t run out of funds.
Obviously property prices do drop as well as rise but as far as an investment property is concerned you are in it for the long haul. The rent will rise over the years too of course.

We did this about forty years ago not too long after we got married after seeing how rapidly the market was rising.
Yes there have been dips over the years but the overall trend is always up, and of course the longer you keep property the more you can ride out the drops.
Just a thought.

Charleygirl5 Fri 22-Apr-22 14:14:52

I am aware this does not affect you at present but I have read on GN the number of folk who have been forced to go down the private route to pay for the surgery because the waiting lists were too long. It is something to keep in mind.

Not now but maybe later could you rent a bedroom for a few months?

If you did retire soon, maybe find a very part-time job for a couple of days a week may be sitting at a till in a supermarket and you would also get a % off food. That at least would be some dosh coming into the house.

As you are aware, the more you have in premium bonds the more likely you are to win something each month- even £25 is better than nothing.

Please give some thought to galloping inflation and as one GN said, do up your house before you retire.

Cabbie21 Fri 22-Apr-22 14:28:46

I retired from teaching at 61, as did DH, but straightaway he started a different job, for five years, meant to be part time but he made it full time. So all the things I hoped we would enjoy together did not happen, and now 15 years on, we have aged too much.

I filled my time with voluntary work, church, choirs and grandchildren, a good balance. I do less on all fronts now, but enough to keep me busy, though I still have lots of time to myself which I admit to spending online. I do get bored and lonely, even though I have several points in the week where I interact with others in real life.
I guess the point Iwant to make is it depends what sort of person you are and what you want to do. Sitting on the patio reading will probably not be enough for you for very long, even with trips to the coast. It is not just whether you can afford it financially. A lot is said about mental health, but think what makes you tick, what energises and stimulates you. Have a plan, don’t just drift into retirement because you can afford not to work.

midgey Fri 22-Apr-22 14:46:21

I’m with Franbern, retirement on not very much money is very tedious. In my opinion there are only so many gardens, museums, houses and so on that you can visit unless you have a particular interest. I wish I could have gone part time for awhile rather than a sudden stop.

SporeRB Fri 22-Apr-22 15:14:43

I will be retiring in 3 months time age 60. The pension I will receive at 60 is 16% less than the pension I will receive in 7 years time at 67 (state pension age) since all contributions up to 2016 are protected. Lump sum figure is the same at 60 or 67 and I will receive full state pension at 67.

Do you have any idea how much less pension you will get if you draw your pension at 55 instead of 60? If not a lot then it is worth retiring at 53, use your savings to support you for two years up to 55, and if you want to travel to Wales or anywhere in the world, you can use your lump sum without even touching your investment and savings.

MissAdventure Fri 22-Apr-22 15:19:25

You can,do whatever you like, and that's priceless, I think.

Peehaps tou might think about doing some temporary work through an agency or something?
Then you could top up the coffers if they're a bit low.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 15:21:01

I did think of maybe buying a small apartment in north Wales on the coast to spend weekends at while I’m still working. But if I did retire I suppose I could sell my bungalow and buy an apartment on the coast to live in permanently and do a permanent move to north Wales.
I’m not so keen to buy a second home just to rent out, as I wouldn’t want to have to maintain it or deal with tenants, so that would be an expense to pay a company to do it. I see property as somewhere for me to live or go on holiday to, rather than an investment. Also I understand investing in stock & shares much better than I do property. If I put the whole in stocks & shares and went for income rather than growth I could get a dividend income of £16,000 per year without touching the capital, depending on the stock market of course.

silverlining48 Fri 22-Apr-22 15:28:44

shropshire do what brings you joy. Personally I wouldn’t /coukdnt risk my hard earned savings on the stock market as i avoid risk. but you seem to know the market . Whatever you do, enjoy.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 15:36:30

Thanks for all these comments, it’s really helping me to get a perspective on things. I’ve got another four years before I’ve built up the NI contributions for the full state pension, so I’ll probably reassess the situation then. My employment will definitely let me work part time at four days a work if I choose to, so that’s another possibility which I haven’t really considered yet, as I’ve been thinking of it as all or nothing.

MissAdventure Fri 22-Apr-22 15:52:38

Have you considered condensing your 4 days into 2 long ones, instead, if possible?
5 days week off, then.