Boris Becker jailed for two and a half years.

Aren’t accountants and such in the business of avoiding tax? Isn’t that their function, to find loopholes, looking fir tax havens? Isn’t that why wealthy people pay them so well to seek these options out? Aren’t we one of the biggest money launderers in the world. We are famous fir it.

The rest of us have it deducted before we even see it.
I have just had my p60 contributory pension payslip with a total £ 8504 gross pa minus £1351 tax and £7200 ish pa doesn’t leave much, given council tax, utilities, petrol. I am not pleading poverty here, but it is not the gold plated pension often bandied about, after over 30 years of very stressful front line public service.
It’s all skewed really. Sorry am off on one but squillionaires have quadrupled because of these unfair advantages and my dh isn’t well and my hip hurts today...

I had a friend whose husband was a builder. I remember being totally shocked when she proudly told me that her husband paid £1 in tax for the year. He employed an accountant to do this for him. It was cheaper to pay an accountant than the tax costs.

A brilliant tennis player and excellent commentator but nevertheless a criminal in the eyes of the law.
Commit the crime, do the time.

I was very sad to see what has happened to him. I worked at Earl's Court in the early 80's and met him, what a nice young man.

silverlining you can have a rant on here, everyone can, it’s just like having a conversation around a table (virtually).
Sorry you and you DH are not in good health today. I find things annoy me more if I have aches and pains.
On balance, accountants are trying to save your money from ending up in the tax man’s hands but it has to be within a law abiding way.
By moving money across borders and offshore rules differ and it seems easier to “hide”.
Oh to have money to even hide. Most of us need ours to live.

I think prisons should be reserved for those who need to be kept out of society’s way - violent robbers, rapists, terrorists, sex offenders, etc. Surely there are better ways of making fraudsters pay their dues? For instance making them work all day long and hard at a job they wouldn’t otherwise contemplate doing?

silverlining48

Aren’t accountants and such in the business of avoiding tax? Isn’t that their function, to find loopholes, looking fir tax havens? Isn’t that why wealthy people pay them so well to seek these options out? Aren’t we one of the biggest money launderers in the world. We are famous fir it.

The rest of us have it deducted before we even see it.
I have just had my p60 contributory pension payslip with a total £ 8504 gross pa minus £1351 tax and £7200 ish pa doesn’t leave much, given council tax, utilities, petrol. I am not pleading poverty here, but it is not the gold plated pension often bandied about, after over 30 years of very stressful front line public service.
It’s all skewed really. Sorry am off on one but squillionaires have quadrupled because of these unfair advantages and my dh isn’t well and my hip hurts today...

I have just had my p60 contributory pension payslip with a total £ 8504 gross pa minus £1351 tax and £7200 ish pa

That can't be right, Silverlining

"The standard Personal Allowance is £12,570, which is the amount of income you do not have to pay tax on."

I tried to put previous years allowances on here but it went skew whiff.

PAs are on here:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-and-allowances-income-tax/income-tax-rates-and-allowances-current-and-past

silverlining probably has other income taking her above the threshold Calli. She said the P60 was for a private pension.

Boris was a brilliant tennis player with a likeable personality,
but, badly advised or not, he is guilty and therefore should be punished. But I tend to agree with Floriel, our overcrowded prisons should be kept for dangerous criminals. Boris is unlikely to attack anyone so some sort of tough community service would be more appropriate.

This thread is like GP surgery waiting room

Yes I get the old state pension, £135 pw.

Please explain JaneJudge, you have me baffled ?

TillyTrotter

Please explain JaneJudge, you have me baffled ?

How the conversation changed to someone else, a woman again.

Man commits crime, a woman has done worse.

It is sad

Ah. KP. I won’t comment on her as I don’t read any articles about her.

JaneJudge

This thread is like GP surgery waiting room

Silent?
Well spaced with masks?

closed until further notice

Germanshepherdsmum

‘Accountants are glorified fiddlers in reality’. Your words timetogo. That statement encompasses all accountants and it is untrue. You will find rogues in every profession but that doesn’t entitle you to vilify every member of it.

Totally agree GSM very stupid comment.

Floriel

I think prisons should be reserved for those who need to be kept out of society’s way - violent robbers, rapists, terrorists, sex offenders, etc. Surely there are better ways of making fraudsters pay their dues? For instance making them work all day long and hard at a job they wouldn’t otherwise contemplate doing?

A bit like the the job centre does?

Prison should be for violent or anti social offenders to protect the public . I definitely think punishment in the community more worthwhile and cost effective than prison. Yes, working to pay off the debt, maybe with the disadvantaged, using your skills to benefit others.

Just misread the title of the thread…thought it was Boris Johnson…going to prison ….
Never mind, one lives in hope. I am apolitical; just someone who tries not to encourage TV reality liars.
Don’t bother hammering me with responses. I won’t read or respond to them

Boris Becker must be feeling a little bit of remorse now he is settled into Wandsworth prison this week …..
Wimbledon is 2 miles away but will feel a million miles from the lifestyle Boris will now be experiencing.

Carillion1

Just misread the title of the thread…thought it was Boris Johnson…going to prison ….
Never mind, one lives in hope. I am apolitical; just someone who tries not to encourage TV reality liars.
Don’t bother hammering me with responses. I won’t read or respond to them

? So why bother posting? Very odd.

vegansrock

Prison should be for violent or anti social offenders to protect the public . I definitely think punishment in the community more worthwhile and cost effective than prison. Yes, working to pay off the debt, maybe with the disadvantaged, using your skills to benefit others.

People were being sent to prison for non-payment of rates and I believe in England still can be imprisoned for non-payment of council tax, usually because they are unable to pay.