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Can shops still insist on customers wearing face masks?

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Franbern Wed 04-May-22 13:10:24

Have an appointment with Specsavers tomorrow. They have phoned to remind me of that appointment and informed me that I MUST wear a face mask when attending.

Thought this was now down to individuals to decide whether or not to continue using these, did not know that shops could insist on it.

Grannynannywanny Fri 06-May-22 20:51:07

Biscuitmuncher
How is it normal to be masked?

Seriously? You’re back again to spout more crap?? I suppose your side kick will be along any time to back you up.

You have a history of ignoring direct questions but here’s one for you…

How is it normal to taunt posters who have a terminal illness and/or are extremely clinically vulnerable?

Blossoming Fri 06-May-22 20:52:56

Biscuitmuncher

Dont be so silly Vintagejazz it completely goes against human nature

Dear God, this is so ludicrous I don’t know where to start.

I’m disabled and have several chronic health conditions. I’ve been this way for many years and I like to get out there, join in, participate and do stuff that other people do. I require reasonable adjustments to enable this. Wearing a mask is no big deal. It’s not interfering with your human rights. The fact that you think I should be isolated very much interferes with my human rights. I’ve experienced more isolation than most without Covid because society doesn’t treat disabled and vulnerable people very well, Please don’t try to patronise me with any ‘tragic cripple, Pat on the head’ garbage, I’ve heard it all before. I’m not arguing a hypothetical point, I’ve lived this stuff for several years.

Perhaps you would like me to off myself so I’m not causing anyone any inconvenience?

Marydoll Fri 06-May-22 21:05:46

Well said Blossoming. The mask deniers should walk a day in our shoes.

Biscuitmuncher Fri 06-May-22 21:40:15

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

Blossoming Fri 06-May-22 21:44:47

Flipping heck biscuitmuncher you really are tone deaf, aren’t you?

Biscuitmuncher Fri 06-May-22 21:45:49

Grannynannywanny who have I taunted? All I have said is I don't believe the masks most people wear don't work , so why should people who don't have any infections wear them. They make me panic

ixion Fri 06-May-22 21:49:48

So, I guess, would being told on ICU that they were going to intubate you.

Dickens Fri 06-May-22 22:21:11

Biscuitmuncher

Grannynannywanny who have I taunted? All I have said is I don't believe the masks most people wear don't work , so why should people who don't have any infections wear them. They make me panic

... when you sneeringly suggest that those who still wear masks and who might well be at considerable risk should they catch the virus, are using them as 'comfort blankets', and say - as you did - that government have "got it made"... implying that people are stupid for following previous guidelines; then you are in fact taunting them.

I've read many comments on other social media sites using the same rhetoric. Anti-maskers start from a point which consists of insults and slurs... "wake up sheeple"... "still wearing your 'face-nappy'?", are two of the typical attacks from your brigade. It's not a convincing argument - and certainly not a science-based one...

I sympathise with those who don't like wearing a mask for whatever reason (does anyone like wearing them?)... I don't like wearing them either. But that is not the point.

I don't see anyone here demanding that young people are denied further loss of education - nor anyone who doesn't want some form of return to normality. They are asking whether it's reasonable to ask that, in certain environments like close contact in a shop, hairdressers or opticians, masks should still be worn. Those working in these environments also have a right to protection. My local chemist demands that everyone entering it wears a mask to protect themselves and their customers. And they have every right to do that.

The disparity between the law and guidance has created confusion, but it simply means businesses, not the government, will be responsible for making and enforcing any face mask rules.

FannyCornforth Sat 07-May-22 05:54:17

I saw this this morning.
It was part of an email from Change, regarding a petition for free lateral flow tests for clinically extremely vulnerable people.
Anyway, I thought of this thread straight away.
Not that I think that it will make a blind bit of difference!

Marydoll Sat 07-May-22 07:30:00

Thats interesting Fanny. As CEV, living in Scotland, I have been offered free LFTs. Someone must think Covid is still serious enough to make them readily available.

Allsorts Sat 07-May-22 07:46:11

All dictirs, nurses and dental staff still wear masks. Do they know something we don't.,If you feel to continue wearing a mask,do so. I do in shops and crowded places, it is my decision.

FannyCornforth Sat 07-May-22 07:49:05

Mary, DH got a box sent to him out of the blue when they stopped being free.
We hadn’t ordered them - so I’m not sure what that was about.
I did wonder at the time if it was going to be a regular thing.

Vintagejazz Sat 07-May-22 08:00:13

Biscuitmuncher

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

No that is not 'the whole point of this thread'.

Marydoll Sat 07-May-22 08:04:27

Fanny, I had a letter from the chief Medical Officer of Scotland, (wasn't that lovely that he took the time to write to me, when he is still so busy with the pandemic), giving me a phone number to call to access free LFTs and PCR tests. We also still have access to anti-viral treatment.

Someone (with expertise) must think Covid is still a threat to those of us who are extremely, clinically vulnerable.
I wonder if our anti maskers would have different view point, if in the early days of the pandemic, they had been told that they would most certainly die, if the caught Covid.

FannyCornforth Sat 07-May-22 08:55:34

I suppose that we should pity those with the inability to empathise; and with such low levels of emotional intelligence.
Ditto those with zero compassion; and lacking any sense of shared humanity.

It must be a very limited and basic existence.

Biscuitmuncher Sat 07-May-22 09:05:36

FannyCornforth are those people who can think for themselves

Vintagejazz Sat 07-May-22 09:11:05

You're not thinking for yourself Biscuitmuncher. You're acting selfishly and then leaping on ill informed theories that go totally against medical advice to back up your behaviour.

Biscuitmuncher Sat 07-May-22 09:17:53

Oh my gosh theres so much medical advice that say they don't work

Parsley3 Sat 07-May-22 09:20:44

Wear a mask or don't wear a mask. If you won't wear one for whatever reason stay away from places that require one. I hope that the mask deniers at least had the decency to social distance when that was required. I certainly gave non mask wearers a wide berth in enclosed spaces and will continue to do so in places where masks are still required. I had my eyebrows done recently and would have walked away if the beautician had refused to be masked. It is a part of life now.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-May-22 09:22:36

How strange that medics - doctors, nurses, paramedics, vets - all wear them.
I wish you’d do us all a favour and (word of choice) off Biscuitmuncher and take your offensive comments with you. I have never seen you post on another subject - you’re obsessed with masks and vaccines.

Vintagejazz Sat 07-May-22 09:23:15

The WHO has clearly stated that face masks, as part of a comprehensive strategy, prevent transmission of Covid.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-May-22 10:00:44

Obviously they haven’t had the benefit of input from a couple of the posters here.

Callistemon21 Sat 07-May-22 10:13:48

Vintagejazz

Biscuitmuncher

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

No that is not 'the whole point of this thread'.

VintageJazz I agree - how can anyone reach the conclusion that
The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection shows just how some people can base their ideas on flimsy ideas and not evidence.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-May-22 10:19:57

It’s all they think about. Sad.

Northernlass Sat 07-May-22 11:58:41

Biscuitmuncher have you read the research results I posted yesterday?
Your intransigence on this matter is astounding. I wonder if you studied science at any time in your life?