Baby P's mother to be released

MissAdventure

I don't believe in an eye for an eye.
I do think some people have no place to be out and about in society.
As,for children being removed (fictional ones at the moment) I know social services do a actually do that, so are you condemning them?

They have gone through the process and she is not seen as a danger to the public. She will be on parole and can be returned at any time. So what is the uproar about? The crime was appauling but you will not reverse it by tearing up our legal structure.

Have I said anywhere that you mustn't state your opinion "MissA"? State away. Just don't expect everyone to agree with it.

So you keep saying.
I'm not trying to change that, just disagreeing with it.

Its allowed.

I'm condemning (seeing as we're in the mood for condemning tonight) the people who have already made up their minds that they know all about this person and want her lynched. I don't expect agreement from the mob with the pitchforks, but I'm entitled to my opinion. ?

But you're the person who said it, not me, on the 'like button' thread.

I don't believe in an eye for an eye.
I do think some people have no place to be out and about in society.
As,for children being removed (fictional ones at the moment) I know social services do a actually do that, so are you condemning them?

MissAdventure

As you have said elsewhere, I'm entitled to my opinion, and you yours.
The torture that little soul gas inflicted on him could have come straight from medieval times.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. So if we're going to rely on "I'm entitled to my opinion" as a debating method, why are we even bothering to post?

I'm so fed up of "I'm entitled to my opinion", honestly I am.

I think the Government has said a Minister should overrule the law in cases like this. The start of the slipery slope. I wonder how their wives will feel when they have taken enough power to themselves to punish them for reading.

Disgusting!

No actually, not medieval. Biblical.

That's where the "eye for an eye" thing comes from, isn't it?

As you have said elsewhere, I'm entitled to my opinion, and you yours.
The torture that little soul gas inflicted on him could have come straight from medieval times.

volver

Let's just have a quick overview before I leave...

13 years counts as "soon", she deserves to rot, some people hope she is murdered, she'll probably be pregnant soon and they should take any (hypothetical) babies away from her...

Its like the Handmaids Tale.

Or the Tories.

MissAdventure

All if those things sound pretty reasonable for someone involved in the torture and death of their own child to me.
Nothing at all like a fictional TV programme, sadly for Peter.

Reasonable?

Sorry, I didn't realise we'd moved back to medieval times.

All if those things sound pretty reasonable for someone involved in the torture and death of their own child to me.
Nothing at all like a fictional TV programme, sadly for Peter.

volver
Any baby born to her will be on the at risk register, that’s how it works and it’s how we try to protect children in the UK. Surely you don’t actually think she’s a fit parent do you? The safeguarding of children is enforced by law. Yes, it is highly likely that any child she may have in the future will be removed from her.
And I don’t have a problem with that, in particular as the grandparent of an adopted child, who was seriously neglected by his natural mother, but thank God, he wasn’t killed. He is now leading the life he deserves with loving parents.

Volver you are so right.

Let's just have a quick overview before I leave...

13 years counts as "soon", she deserves to rot, some people hope she is murdered, she'll probably be pregnant soon and they should take any (hypothetical) babies away from her...

Its like the Handmaids Tale.

Any baby born to her should be on the At Risk register before birth and removed at birth.

Unfortunately the services that are intended to reduce the risks that she might present are underfunded and deeply flawed. That is clear from the fact that she was known to all the services over a period of time but still this tragedy played out.

I think it is more than likely that a pregnancy will be on the cards before long.

HowVeryDareYou you just hoped for murder. How vile.

Absolutely disgusting.

Disgusting. I truly hope someone gets her and finishes her off, but I expect she'll be given a new identity, somewhere to live, financial benefits, some type of protection, and she'll carry on with her life.

Good post NotSpaghetti.

This has been looked at again and the decision has been upheld.
The probation officers and prison officials support the plan.

Obviously it brings a lot back - those of us who were/are involved in child protection will remember this. Sadly we should have learned more lessons from the case.
However, we cannot just "let people rot".

Regarding the public and other children in particular, the multi-agency public protection board in the area she is being released will be fully informed of the details and will be working together on this issue.
We only know what the papers are printing about this - not the whole story.

I'm totally shocked by the news that Baby Ps mum to be released...She deserves to rot...How could anyone be her friend after what she done