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Esspee Sun 22-May-22 16:22:10

My OH recently came away with the phrase “That cuckoo’s giein it lalday” in the middle of a normal conversation in English and it made me wonder how many of us use our own language as a matter of course.

I tend to use Scots when there is no English word which expresses my feelings well enough so I say e.g. I am scunnered by Boris Johnson, I can’t thole the lies and he’s an eejit.

When faced with the questions on language in the recent census I had to admit that although I understand Scots I can’t carry on a conversation in the language but it does enrich my vocabulary.

Can you carry on a conversation in pure Scots or do you, like me, use it when English doesn’t quite fit the bill?

What words do you use?

Katek Mon 23-May-22 15:44:10

Er…..possibly not, Volver!

volver Mon 23-May-22 15:55:20

Katek

Er…..possibly not, Volver!

Although some of it never gets old...

F E R R E T... futret.

???

Marydoll Mon 23-May-22 15:57:47

What an enjoyable thread, this has turned out to be. Thank you Espee!

Callistemon21 Mon 23-May-22 16:00:05

Marydoll

What an enjoyable thread, this has turned out to be. Thank you Espee!

Incomprehensible to most of us grin

But I am wearing my knitted baffies!

Grandmabatty Mon 23-May-22 16:01:06

Definitely Marydoll, thanks to Espee for starting this.

Milest0ne Mon 23-May-22 16:34:25

I lived in a holiday resort where we understood many accents. When my uncle came to stay I had to take him on the trams as he wasn't understood. The conductor asked " Where to?" I asked my uncle. He told me then I told the conductor. He then told me the fare and I told my uncle who gave it to me to give to the conductor. I never could understand why they didn't talk to each other.
When I ran a shop it was fascinating to hear a child swap between English &. German in the middle of a sentence.
I suppose it depends on what best expresses what one wants to say.

grannydarkhair Mon 23-May-22 16:35:36

Espee Pog Mo Thoin - I was told to pronounce it as Poch Ma Hone, but we were both a wee bitty drunk at the time ? maybe someone with a good knowledge of the Gaelic will come on and tell us how to say it.
And yes, it’s a great thread, funny and informative.

volver Mon 23-May-22 17:00:19

I'd say "pock mo ho-yin", but happy to be corrected smile

4allweknow Mon 23-May-22 19:16:33

My DM was a Dundonian. At hime she spoke with not too much dialect. However when we went to visit an aunt where I often stayed over to see cousins it was like DM had changed into another being reverting back to the local speech. I notice some GNs use cloth when it is usually a cloot - gie it a dicht wi a cloot and down would be doon, awa doon the stairs. Fascinating subject.

FarNorth Mon 23-May-22 19:45:45

As a child, I sometimes stayed with an aunt who spoke very 'properly' at all times, except in the evenings when she'd be on the phone outside my bedroom talking in broad Scots to her sister. smile

grandtanteJE65 Mon 23-May-22 21:40:03

I probably could carry on a successful conversation in Doric Scots if I was with other Scots, but living in Denmark it doesn't really apply.

I think in any language there are words in the dialect people grew up with that they never find an equivalent to in the official language of the country.

mumpy71 Tue 24-May-22 10:19:46

Shooglie is a good one. Especially pointing out a shooglie table in a Greek taverna!! Or be worried if your coat 's hanging on a shooglie hook!!

LuckyFour Thu 26-May-22 10:34:27

Beautiful language but I haven't a clue what you're all talking about!!

Gin Thu 26-May-22 14:15:09

My Parents visited my in-laws in Ayrshire. A cousin came who lived in a mining village up country. My poor mother, a Londoner, smiled sweetly and nodded but understood not a word he said!
One of his phrases we all still remember is ‘ I’ll away doon the wata fer a wee donner’

After many, many years of marriage I have a fairly large vocabulary of Ayrshire words and ask can I be an adopted Scottish gran?

Petera Thu 26-May-22 14:52:17

Gin My poor mother, a Londoner, smiled sweetly and nodded but understood not a word he said!

I have a colleague from Luxembourg (who speaks excellent English) who flew in Glasgow and took a taxi from the airport and was treated to a monologue from the driver. Not only did he not understand a word that was said, the taxi driver didn't even notice.

FarNorth Thu 26-May-22 15:02:11

A friend from the Black Country went to uni in Glasgow and reckoned that coming from an area with a strong accent helped her to pick up parliamo Glasgow.

Later, on a train trip in Scotland, her english husband was astonished when a fellow passenger addressed them with apparently incomprehensible gibberish - and she replied. grin

Floradora9 Thu 26-May-22 17:53:11

Out in a park with England based grand child. She was admiring a friendly looking dog when the owner asked her if she wanted to give him a clap . One bewildered little girl : in case you do not understand this the man was asking if she wanted to give the dog a pat and not a round of applause.

Floradora9 Thu 26-May-22 17:56:01

Wheniwasyourage

Doric around here. I'm from the west, so not a native speaker, but frequently find myself in a bilingual conversation with me using (mostly but by no means all) standard English words and my companion speaking Doric. It works.

Did anyone else enjoy "Scotland the What?"?

Scotland the What were a real treat. We still quote them . We spent a couple of years in Aberdeen and were used to their language .

Esspee Thu 26-May-22 18:05:50

Gin

My Parents visited my in-laws in Ayrshire. A cousin came who lived in a mining village up country. My poor mother, a Londoner, smiled sweetly and nodded but understood not a word he said!
One of his phrases we all still remember is ‘ I’ll away doon the wata fer a wee donner’

After many, many years of marriage I have a fairly large vocabulary of Ayrshire words and ask can I be an adopted Scottish gran?

Of course you can become an honorary Scot Gin though we might have to change your name to Scotch. ?

Marydoll Thu 26-May-22 18:10:59

Very witty Espee! ?

Grandmabatty Thu 26-May-22 18:46:35

I thought the more discerning of you would like to see this recipe I saw on Twitter. ?

Grannmarie Thu 26-May-22 19:42:09

Brilliant, Grandmabatty! I remember my Nanna making clootie dumpling, we lived in hope of finding one of her silver sixpences!

FarNorth Thu 26-May-22 22:37:37

A recipe from the Rural Grandmabatty?
(Scottish Women's Rural Institute)

It soonds braw!

FarNorth Fri 27-May-22 00:10:33

Here's a rerr wee story ah've fund. (8 mins)

Scaffies o' Space

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c40k4j

grannypiper Sun 29-May-22 16:56:16

My family were from a mining village here in Ayrshire and my wee nana always called the footpath the fitpad.