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Esspee Sun 22-May-22 16:22:10

My OH recently came away with the phrase “That cuckoo’s giein it lalday” in the middle of a normal conversation in English and it made me wonder how many of us use our own language as a matter of course.

I tend to use Scots when there is no English word which expresses my feelings well enough so I say e.g. I am scunnered by Boris Johnson, I can’t thole the lies and he’s an eejit.

When faced with the questions on language in the recent census I had to admit that although I understand Scots I can’t carry on a conversation in the language but it does enrich my vocabulary.

Can you carry on a conversation in pure Scots or do you, like me, use it when English doesn’t quite fit the bill?

What words do you use?

Grandmabatty Mon 23-May-22 12:58:16

I mean the links with Scots and Baltic countries

volver Mon 23-May-22 12:58:33

That's really interesting Elegran, thank you.

Here's a poem by our current Makar, Kathleen Jamie. I've posted it before but I just love it. It's got Scots words in it. wink

www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/here-lies-our-land/

volver Mon 23-May-22 13:02:32

Grandmabatty

I find the links with Baltic countries even more interesting. The Icelandic word for a vacuum cleaner is a stoorsooker. ? It isn't spelt that way but pronounced like that.

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And Scandanavia, Grandmabatty. In the NE, a girl/woman is a quine. The Swedish word for woman is qvinna

Maremia Mon 23-May-22 13:11:34

Grandmabatty, when you watch Scandi Noir films, with subtitles rather than dubbing, you will soon pick out that they use 'braw' as we do.

Sloegin Mon 23-May-22 13:21:08

I'm not Scottish but Northern Irish where so many of our collo are Ulster Scots or translated from Irish. We lived in England for years but often found there just wasn't a suitable word in standard English. eg eeejit is often the perfect way to describe someone and it's not the same as idiot which is more offensive. Our DIL is Scottish living in London and she finds the same. I sometimes found, when living in England, that I'd use a word not realising it wasn't standard English to find I'd completely confused the listener.

NannaFirework Mon 23-May-22 13:28:45

My DD is Scottish so
I’m half !
Once up in Scotland for a long weekend we were renting part of a house with our own kitchen - I went to ask for a Saucepan (to hear some Soup) and no one could understand my ‘English’ accent?

Glenfinnan Mon 23-May-22 13:29:41

I tend not to use Scots words as I live in England and married to an Englishman…but when I’m on the phone to relatives in Scotland…I seem to slip back into the dialect!

pooohbear2811 Mon 23-May-22 13:30:50

I remember our first posting in Scotland, having come from Berlin where we spoke English/German/American.
Was posted in Dunkeld, went to school in Perth, and could not understand a word anybody said to me.
Spent more time bunking off school in the 12 weeks we were there than I did in the rest of my school days.
People must have thought I was either deaf or stupid.

Cedardove Mon 23-May-22 13:37:17

We sang lots of Scots songs in the car going on holiday but the favourite was always Ye cannae shove yer Grannie of a bus!!

HiMay Mon 23-May-22 13:51:12

Scunnered, thole and eejit are part of our normal vocabulary, and we are not Scottish!

Grandmabatty Mon 23-May-22 13:51:59

Volver I meant Scandinavian countries as well as Baltic. There's such a proven link between Scots and Norway too. Maremia I never thought to look at the subtitles.

volver Mon 23-May-22 13:56:33

Grantmabatty ?? Det är bra.

Wheniwasyourage Mon 23-May-22 14:05:03

Doric around here. I'm from the west, so not a native speaker, but frequently find myself in a bilingual conversation with me using (mostly but by no means all) standard English words and my companion speaking Doric. It works.

Did anyone else enjoy "Scotland the What?"?

Katek Mon 23-May-22 14:05:09

There are many near identical words between Norwegian and Scots/English - days of the week, months of the year for example. My Dh was in Stavanger a few years ago and came across an empty shop with a notice in the window. It read “Flitted til” and a different address. That’s exactly what would be said in NE Scotland and ‘flitted’ on its own is pretty universal in Scotland . He also found out that the Dutch for string/rope is ‘tow’- same as here.

volver Mon 23-May-22 14:10:58

Wheniwasyourage

Doric around here. I'm from the west, so not a native speaker, but frequently find myself in a bilingual conversation with me using (mostly but by no means all) standard English words and my companion speaking Doric. It works.

Did anyone else enjoy "Scotland the What?"?

They were inspired.

I saw them at His Majesty's many years ago and laughed so much I could hardly stand.

This still makes me laugh. The hoovering. ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqnX0gmbi_U

yogitree Mon 23-May-22 14:11:53

I use it dotted throughout my language, sometimes to the point of surprising myself as I become aware of the blank looks of those I'm talking to! My family all came from Glasgow but my mother was of the ilk that tried to get me to speak 'The Queen's English' as did the schools. My Granny and my peers however, kept me on the Scots track. I use and teach Scots words with my little GD now.

Esspee Mon 23-May-22 14:14:12

The German for cold water is kaltes wasser, very similar to cald watter. I don’t speak German but noticed that when watching a subtitled German programme.

Katek Mon 23-May-22 14:50:49

@* volver* - have you listened to the Flying Pigs? One of them is John Hardie, son of Buff, and they are very funny indeed. Material is along same lines as ‘Scotland the What’. I posted a link to their Caledonia Bank sketch somewhere recently, well worth a listen. (Forget my link just Google!)

volver Mon 23-May-22 14:53:56

Yes Katek...saw them in His Majesties too!!

Maremia Mon 23-May-22 15:04:42

Meanwhile, over on Facebook just now is a post showing you how to sign in Scots!

Totallylost Mon 23-May-22 15:08:59

I once heard this song at a burns night, explains it all beautifully

www.scotssangsfurschools.com/isadoveadooda.htm

coastalgran Mon 23-May-22 15:21:41

Great to see the odd words and phrases that I use at home here in the East Neuk of Fife. I have English neighbours who often ask me what a certain word or phrase means. I think our words are much more colourful and less offensive to those of a delicate disposition, When I visited Dundee for the first time I did think that it was an entirely different language I was hearing. The villages here all have their own names Anstruther is called Ainster, Kilconquhar is called Kinneuchar a sort of Scottish/English version.

Aveline Mon 23-May-22 15:30:40

Aww 'Scotland the What'. Thoroughly enjoyed hearing that volver. I had one of their cassettes in the car for long journeys. Laughed all the way.

volver Mon 23-May-22 15:35:15

I was going to link to the Princess Diana one but I thought it might not be so funny these days. wink

win Mon 23-May-22 15:38:11

Lovely thread ?????