Lilibet

I have just had a quick look at the Daily Mail and I’m afraid they’ve written their usual anti H&M tirade! Just awful.

Beautiful, and obviously enjoying herself at her party. It's a shame we don't see her with other family members, particularly her cousins, but I understand why. Maybe Archie was behaving like Louis somewhere in the garden and pulling faces, and that simply wouldn't look good on camera!

She has Harry’s eyes and colouring, but otherwise looks like a Markle.

A photo with Great Grandmother would have been nice.

The two Lilibets together.

For the family album, of course.

So? I am a photographer. I take lots of photos when with friends and family. I give them to them all the time. I even post some on social media. though no one care who my kids are.

How do you know they were going to take a photo of the Queen meeting Lili and were going to merch it? Were you in the room? Or was it "sources inside the palace"?

People of the world want to see the kids. They do with the Cambridges and they do with the Sussex's. Heck, I even looked through the photos of the kids with Eugenie and Beatrice.

They are all lovely kids and Lilibet looks just like her dad. Wish we would have caught a glimpse of Archie too.

imaround

They did not have a photographer. This photo was taken candidly by one of the friends attending the birthday party.

And they respectfully waited until AFTER the jubilee to post it online.

A friend who is a professional photographer who undertakes a lot of high profile work. Of course they were going to merch it. The RF are one step ahead of them.

Another picture of Meghan's half-brother, Thomas.

This is a picture of Meghan's father, half-sister and half-brother. Meghan's half-brother, Thomas, appears to have red hair, which means he must have inherited a recessive gene from his father. That means that Meghan's father must also be carrying a recessive red-hair gene.

growstuff

Sorry, I didn't see your link imaround.

We probably cross posted.

I have a friend from South Africa who has 2 red headed children and none of the rest of the family in recent memory have red hair. So it happens more than we think it does IMO.

Still rare though.

Redhead56

Of course it’s the best hair colour ever!

Indeed! My daughter loves it. When she was little, a hairdresser told her that people spend hundreds of pound to dye their hair red, but she has hers for free.

Sorry, I didn't see your link imaround.

Of course it’s the best hair colour ever!

BoadiceaJones

And yet, my mother and her family are red-haired going back many generations, my children's father has red-haired uncles/aunts, and none of their descendants- children/grandchildren/gt grandchildren are red (though my son was born red, went blond and stayed that way, but with a red beard). Most of the Spencer grandchildren are blond, though Lady Sarah's son is red. None of William's kids is red. The chances of their having two red-haired children are very, very slight. None of the Markles or Raglands have claimed red hair to the best of my knowledge. Very interesting to hear from a geneticist who really knows about this stuff.

Has Meghan's father ever been asked about hair colouring in his family? It's a recessive gene, which doesn't necessarily manifest itself for generations.

In my daughter's case, none of her parents or grandparents has red hair. Nobody else in the current generation of our families does either. However, my grandmother did, so I must be carrying a recessive gene. One of my ex-husband's aunts on his father's side has red hair, which means that both have inherited a gene from a mutual ancestor. We could never work out which one because we never had any colour photos of them.

It was completely unexpected when my daughter was born with a mop of red hair. My son, who has mousy straight brown hair like I do, has already worked out that he could be carrying a recessive gene for red hair.

Hair colouring is actually quite complicated:

www.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/what-are-my-chances-having-red-haired-child

Also, in re red hair: www.ed.ac.uk/roslin/news-events/latest-news/archive/2018/genes-linked-to-red-hair

They did not have a photographer. This photo was taken candidly by one of the friends attending the birthday party.

And they respectfully waited until AFTER the jubilee to post it online.

tanith

She is lovely has Harry’s colouring. I just read that Harry and Megan wanted their photographer to take pictures when they took Lili to meet the Queen and were told No in no uncertain terms, as it was a private family visit.

Can imagine any photo would be sold to the highest bidder so hardly surprising it was refused. Cute little baby though.

Two of my cousins had red hair (not siblings) and one of my uncles (who died in his twenties) was apparently another red head. The genetic links are interesting.

And yet, my mother and her family are red-haired going back many generations, my children's father has red-haired uncles/aunts, and none of their descendants- children/grandchildren/gt grandchildren are red (though my son was born red, went blond and stayed that way, but with a red beard). Most of the Spencer grandchildren are blond, though Lady Sarah's son is red. None of William's kids is red. The chances of their having two red-haired children are very, very slight. None of the Markles or Raglands have claimed red hair to the best of my knowledge. Very interesting to hear from a geneticist who really knows about this stuff.

BoadiceaJones

I wonder who in Meghan's family carries the red-haired gene?

Her father could have a recessive gene.

BoadiceaJones

I understood that being recessive, both parents' input is required. But of course, that's based on my (very ancient) school genetics knowledge.

Both parents could have genes which have been recessive for generations.

My daughter has red hair too, but neither of her parents do. The gene is from my father, who didn't have red hair, but his mother did.

I understood that being recessive, both parents' input is required. But of course, that's based on my (very ancient) school genetics knowledge.

BoadiceaJones

I wonder who in Meghan's family carries the red-haired gene?

You don't need both sides to have the gene.
That's a Spencer gene.

In fact, neither DH nor I have red hair so it must have been a recessive one.

I wonder who in Meghan's family carries the red-haired gene?

BlueBelle

Those eyes are full of mischief what a dear little soul

Watch out, Archie! ?

Those eyes are full of mischief what a dear little soul