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bevisp1 Tue 07-Jun-22 09:02:32

Don’t know if it’s me or anyone else feels the same, seems that they didn’t have much success in coming back for the queens platinum jubilee, then suddenly they go back to USA, and now are showing photographs of Lillebet, .. in my opinion, a little too late. They hardly shown any of Archie since he was born, is it now to try and gain ‘brownie points’ and win the public over…. Don’t get me wrong whatever photos they show of the little ones are adorable, but to me a little too late…

Grandma70s Tue 07-Jun-22 17:03:18

If he had been, say, seven, I would have expected better ‘behaviour’ (by which people mean adult behaviour), but he is four, and moreover, hasn’t been four for very long (born April 23rd).

Zoejory Tue 07-Jun-22 16:54:54

Grandma70s

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

You can say that again!

Seems we've wandered into Victorian times!

TerriBull Tue 07-Jun-22 16:54:23

After I had pressed post, I did think I hope I'm not taken literally about the "clip round the ear" said rather flippantly, although it was a common enough expression when I was growing up, a threat not usually carried out (hopefully) shock

Zoejory Tue 07-Jun-22 16:52:22

Look at Charlotte and George now. Perfectly behaved. But both of them had mishaps in the past.

My sister and brother-in[law are childless. Brother in law is an utter pain. He was always saying how people didn't know how to bring up child. How you have to train them

One Christmas we were all together. Hot drinks was served. My youngest son was in his high chair. He would have been about 12 months. BiL decided to put his mug of boiling hot tea on the high chair tray.

I yelled, leapt up, my mother zoomed over. In fact we amazed ourselves at the speed which we moved.

I was polite and explained that we can't put mugs of hot tea on high chair trays.

He scowled and told me I was spoiling him. No respect he yelled.

Children are all different. I was extremely lucky with mine. However I was a nightmare child. Same upbringing as siblings.

Nature versus nurture. I reckon 50/50

Grandma70s Tue 07-Jun-22 16:47:20

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 07-Jun-22 16:42:25

GagaJo

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

They did have a contingency plan, his Nanny took him away before the end of the pageant.

TerriBull Tue 07-Jun-22 16:40:07

volver

TerriBull

I love Prince Louis, I particularly found the hand over the mouth inflicted on his mum funny, not so amusing I imagine when on the receiving end of that, but Catherine dealt with all of his shenanigans very well, given the eyes of the world were upon them all grin I predict some detentions ahead and a few boundaries being pushed to their limits! He is such a gorgeous little boy.

If I'd behaved in public like that when I was four I'd have got a skelp and been taken home with no tea.

Yes if I was on the receiving end I wouldn't have been amused, and I certainly wouldn't have got away with it either. but she dealt with it well, she didn't have a choice really, probably itching to give him -- a clip round the ear but couldn't risk being reported to SS-- a stern talking to!

GagaJo Tue 07-Jun-22 16:39:51

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

volver Tue 07-Jun-22 16:38:09

Have you seen the video? The one where he is behaving badly?

Grandma70s Tue 07-Jun-22 16:36:49

I just know about children.

volver Tue 07-Jun-22 16:32:48

We definitely weren't watching the same video then.

Grandma70s Tue 07-Jun-22 16:32:01

volver

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

There was no bad behaviour.

Callistemon21 Tue 07-Jun-22 16:28:01

All I can say is I’m from a big family, I know a lot of people and I’ve never met a perfectly behaved four year old.

Me neither

I've come across a few tutters, though ?

volver Tue 07-Jun-22 16:20:48

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

Jaberwok Tue 07-Jun-22 16:17:17

Nanny was there,three rows back, and clearly removed Louis before the end as he suddenly wasn't there anymore. Most of us with experience of 4 year olds would have recognised this as the behaviour of a bored probably tired over excited little boy. The parade must have seemed never ending for him, and he behaved accordingly. My own son at that age had to be taken out of a long RC christening, to say he found it tedious was an understatement. Louis behaviour was perfectly normal and those who think he should have been a paragon of 'good behaviour' have little or no experience of very young children.

imaround Tue 07-Jun-22 16:06:38

Sadly, I grew up like that. I learned not to hiccup because it would send my mother into a rage.

Even now, Many decades later, I rarely hiccup.

Joseanne Tue 07-Jun-22 16:04:00

As HM, no not that one grin, I have sat in my office and listened to mums telling me how young Tom disgraced the family at an event, or how the usually impeccably behaved Sophia threw a big wobbly and lashed out. The nicest and best of mums were mortified and were often in tears, until they realised that they were neither the first nor the last, and that the HMs children had done exactly the same, and that no one thought any the worse. Those children have now grown up to be some of the kindest and most respectful adults. Cut little Louis some slack.

Good posts WWM2, Casdon, GG13, Callistemon etc.

Ailidh Tue 07-Jun-22 16:02:10

volver

Ach, this is why I'm not a Royalist wink Or a mother. smile

The balcony thing was funny, the hands over the ears thing. Him moving about from knee to knee was funny; keeping the child entertained and all that. Even him having a bit of a strop and having a sulky face on the platform. But the disrespect he showed his mother? In a public place? Why is that just something that's to be accepted, maybe even laughed about, "because he's only a child"?

Me too.

Chestnut Tue 07-Jun-22 15:48:44

Glorianny
They came back and kept a low profile. They were not (as has been alleged many times on these threads) accompanied by a Netflix film crew or photographer. I have no doubt it's a great disappointment to some that they behaved so well.
We have no idea whether they chose to behave or were told to behave by the Palace. It could be they were given strict instructions that no film crews were allowed and they should not try to upstage the Queen.

I do wish people would realise that Meghan had a career and was involved in charitable work and work to help women and girls way before she met Harry.
As did Heather Mills before she met Paul McCartney. Say no more!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 07-Jun-22 15:41:07

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 07-Jun-22 15:40:40

Love this photo of Louis and Grandpa

GagaJo Tue 07-Jun-22 15:33:21

Should have just had a nanny on one side to hand him off to.

Callistemon21 Tue 07-Jun-22 15:26:07

Casdon

volver

Ah, normal service is resumed...

Four year old child of the Golden Couple misbehaves - oh, its all good.

Bad woman looks out of car window - end of civilisation.

I don’t think that at all, and have never castigated Harry and Meghan, but I do agree with *Whitewavemark’s comment about the hardwiring that guides children to behave/misbehave in certain ways at certain ages. I’m actually glad that Louis behaves exactly as you’d expect a four year old to do - it’s not normal for them to sit like little lambs at that age unless they’ve been brought up in an authoritarian way.

- it’s not normal for them to sit like little lambs at that age unless they’ve been brought up in an authoritarian way

No, it's not.

I had a little chuckle when he was waving enthusiastically at the crowds and his sister put her hand over his and stopped him.
"Enough now!"

Galaxy Tue 07-Jun-22 15:22:12

Anyone who expects a four year old to sit through that hasnt met many four year olds, it would have been tedious beyond words. Why did they just not appear briefly.

Pantglas2 Tue 07-Jun-22 15:11:39

They’re lead violins in that orchestra, over here they used to be second fiddle ? and now they don’t even make the string quartet WWM2!