Meghan and harry

If he had been, say, seven, I would have expected better ‘behaviour’ (by which people mean adult behaviour), but he is four, and moreover, hasn’t been four for very long (born April 23rd).

Grandma70s

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

You can say that again!

Seems we've wandered into Victorian times!

After I had pressed post, I did think I hope I'm not taken literally about the "clip round the ear" said rather flippantly, although it was a common enough expression when I was growing up, a threat not usually carried out (hopefully)

Look at Charlotte and George now. Perfectly behaved. But both of them had mishaps in the past.

My sister and brother-in[law are childless. Brother in law is an utter pain. He was always saying how people didn't know how to bring up child. How you have to train them

One Christmas we were all together. Hot drinks was served. My youngest son was in his high chair. He would have been about 12 months. BiL decided to put his mug of boiling hot tea on the high chair tray.

I yelled, leapt up, my mother zoomed over. In fact we amazed ourselves at the speed which we moved.

I was polite and explained that we can't put mugs of hot tea on high chair trays.

He scowled and told me I was spoiling him. No respect he yelled.

Children are all different. I was extremely lucky with mine. However I was a nightmare child. Same upbringing as siblings.

Nature versus nurture. I reckon 50/50

I imagine Kate is too civilised to want to give a four year old a ‘clip around the ear’.

GagaJo

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

They did have a contingency plan, his Nanny took him away before the end of the pageant.

volver

TerriBull

I love Prince Louis, I particularly found the hand over the mouth inflicted on his mum funny, not so amusing I imagine when on the receiving end of that, but Catherine dealt with all of his shenanigans very well, given the eyes of the world were upon them all I predict some detentions ahead and a few boundaries being pushed to their limits! He is such a gorgeous little boy.

If I'd behaved in public like that when I was four I'd have got a skelp and been taken home with no tea.

Yes if I was on the receiving end I wouldn't have been amused, and I certainly wouldn't have got away with it either. but she dealt with it well, she didn't have a choice really, probably itching to give him -- a clip round the ear but couldn't risk being reported to SS-- a stern talking to!

volver he was being a pain. But he had been put in a situation that was not suitable for a 4 year old. No 4 year old would be able to sit there for as long as he had to, without resorting to some sort of bored behaviour. I'm not sure why they didn't have a contingency in place. A sneaky tablet for him to watch. Or a nanny to hand him off to.

My DGS is 4. He would have been climbing over the edge way before the time when Louis started to act up.

Have you seen the video? The one where he is behaving badly?

I just know about children.

We definitely weren't watching the same video then.

volver

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

There was no bad behaviour.

All I can say is I’m from a big family, I know a lot of people and I’ve never met a perfectly behaved four year old.

Me neither

I've come across a few tutters, though ?

I have no experience of very young children, that's right.

No patience with bad behaviour either.

Nanny was there,three rows back, and clearly removed Louis before the end as he suddenly wasn't there anymore. Most of us with experience of 4 year olds would have recognised this as the behaviour of a bored probably tired over excited little boy. The parade must have seemed never ending for him, and he behaved accordingly. My own son at that age had to be taken out of a long RC christening, to say he found it tedious was an understatement. Louis behaviour was perfectly normal and those who think he should have been a paragon of 'good behaviour' have little or no experience of very young children.

Sadly, I grew up like that. I learned not to hiccup because it would send my mother into a rage.

Even now, Many decades later, I rarely hiccup.

As HM, no not that one , I have sat in my office and listened to mums telling me how young Tom disgraced the family at an event, or how the usually impeccably behaved Sophia threw a big wobbly and lashed out. The nicest and best of mums were mortified and were often in tears, until they realised that they were neither the first nor the last, and that the HMs children had done exactly the same, and that no one thought any the worse. Those children have now grown up to be some of the kindest and most respectful adults. Cut little Louis some slack.

Good posts WWM2, Casdon, GG13, Callistemon etc.

volver

Ach, this is why I'm not a Royalist Or a mother.

The balcony thing was funny, the hands over the ears thing. Him moving about from knee to knee was funny; keeping the child entertained and all that. Even him having a bit of a strop and having a sulky face on the platform. But the disrespect he showed his mother? In a public place? Why is that just something that's to be accepted, maybe even laughed about, "because he's only a child"?

Me too.

Glorianny
They came back and kept a low profile. They were not (as has been alleged many times on these threads) accompanied by a Netflix film crew or photographer. I have no doubt it's a great disappointment to some that they behaved so well.
We have no idea whether they chose to behave or were told to behave by the Palace. It could be they were given strict instructions that no film crews were allowed and they should not try to upstage the Queen.

I do wish people would realise that Meghan had a career and was involved in charitable work and work to help women and girls way before she met Harry.
As did Heather Mills before she met Paul McCartney. Say no more!

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Love this photo of Louis and Grandpa

Should have just had a nanny on one side to hand him off to.

Casdon

volver

Ah, normal service is resumed...

Four year old child of the Golden Couple misbehaves - oh, its all good.

Bad woman looks out of car window - end of civilisation.

I don’t think that at all, and have never castigated Harry and Meghan, but I do agree with *Whitewavemark’s comment about the hardwiring that guides children to behave/misbehave in certain ways at certain ages. I’m actually glad that Louis behaves exactly as you’d expect a four year old to do - it’s not normal for them to sit like little lambs at that age unless they’ve been brought up in an authoritarian way.

- it’s not normal for them to sit like little lambs at that age unless they’ve been brought up in an authoritarian way

No, it's not.

I had a little chuckle when he was waving enthusiastically at the crowds and his sister put her hand over his and stopped him.
"Enough now!"

Anyone who expects a four year old to sit through that hasnt met many four year olds, it would have been tedious beyond words. Why did they just not appear briefly.

They’re lead violins in that orchestra, over here they used to be second fiddle ? and now they don’t even make the string quartet WWM2!