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hollysteers Mon 27-Jun-22 21:56:52

Do you think J.K. Rowling should not feel obliged to hide away, regardless of all the criticism she has received?
I feel she should brazen it out and make an appearance at some of the important milestones in her career.

MerylStreep Sat 02-Jul-22 14:02:59

sf101
They don’t just high Jack a thread, this small minority are highjacking every institution in this country. ?

sf101 Sat 02-Jul-22 13:52:14

Just read her essay and I was very impressed with her logic, research and knowledge. I also had never heard of TERF or doxxing.
I think a very small angry minority are very good at highjacking a topic and claiming that they speak for all.
I totally agree with her arguments and she puts it so much better than I ever could.

Mollygo Sat 02-Jul-22 13:07:37

Doodledog
We see it on here all the time: 'There's no need to feel you have to answer.' 'You are DEMANDING answers', 'I am not answerable to you' 'I have better things to do than go through the thread and answer your questions' - anything rather than have a stab at explaining the position that believes that a 'feeling' can overcome gametes and make men into women.
Exactly! Well done for remembering all those responses too.

Doodledog Sat 02-Jul-22 12:42:44

It's why the No Debate strategy was so effective. If you persuade people to believe that anyone asking questions has to be doing so from a position of transphobia, any and all awkward inconsistencies or biological impossibilities can be ignored with a roll of the eyes, a flounce, a lawsuit or by ruining someone's career.

We see it on here all the time: 'There's no need to feel you have to answer.' 'You are DEMANDING answers', 'I am not answerable to you' 'I have better things to do than go through the thread and answer your questions' - anything rather than have a stab at explaining the position that believes that a 'feeling' can overcome gametes and make men into women.

Chewbacca Sat 02-Jul-22 08:14:24

Well said Vintage, the parallels between the 2 are glaringly obvious aren't they? "We're outraged and offended. But we can't explain why."

Vintagejazz Sat 02-Jul-22 08:07:40

Even on this thread, the one person who criticised her views has ignored several requests to explain why.
Obviously she doesn't have to, but it seems to match real life where so many criticise JK Rowling but are very vague as to what she's said that's offensive.

Vintagejazz Sat 02-Jul-22 08:02:38

JK Rowling talks a lot of sense.

Ailidh Fri 01-Jul-22 14:49:45

Philippa111

I read this written by JK on her website and heard her views.

You can make your own mind up as to whether you think she is right or wrong.

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

What a superb essay. I learned a lot.

In addition, I hadn't heard of TERF, and had to Google Doxxing.

It's a frightening world, sometimes.

Doodledog Fri 01-Jul-22 14:37:08

snowberryZ

No way should she hide away.
If anything, J k Rowling and Sharron Davies deserve medals for having the guts to shine a spotlight on something that a lot of people are too scared to talk about.

I couldn't agree more, and after years of hearing that JKR is transphobic I have never even once had anyone tell me why they think this is the case - and it's not for want of asking!

AGAA4 Fri 01-Jul-22 14:32:14

I think her views are sensible. She supports women and transwomen. There is no excuse for the vile things that people have said about her.

Lucca Fri 01-Jul-22 14:05:03

Ilovecheese

AmberSpyglass could you direct me to her views on transgender people in her own words?

Exactly

mayisay Fri 01-Jul-22 14:01:45

I agree with you, entirely, Snowberry Z.

Wheniwasyourage Fri 01-Jul-22 13:48:11

Thanks for the link Philippa111. Wow! She is a brave woman and puts her arguments very well (she is, after all, a writer!). I think she is 100% right.

Mollygo Fri 01-Jul-22 13:34:53

Philippa111 Thanks for the link.

snowberryZ Fri 01-Jul-22 13:21:01

No way should she hide away.
If anything, J k Rowling and Sharron Davies deserve medals for having the guts to shine a spotlight on something that a lot of people are too scared to talk about.

Philippa111 Fri 01-Jul-22 12:43:40

I read this written by JK on her website and heard her views.

You can make your own mind up as to whether you think she is right or wrong.

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Vintagejazz Fri 01-Jul-22 11:25:47

Would genuinely be interested, Amberglass, in knowing which part of them you object to?

Vintagejazz Fri 01-Jul-22 11:24:33

I can't see anything offensive about those comments.

Doodledog Fri 01-Jul-22 11:18:38

Beats me, ilc. I've tried to see them as transphobic, but I really can't. The only way I can think of that people could believe JKR to be 'anti-trans' is because they have been told that this is the case and they see moaning about her as a badge of their support for the cause.

It's the same with cliches like 'transpeople are the most marginalised group in society'. When asked what this means, and how anyone knows, the 'allies' can't tell you that, either. It's another phrase that is just trotted out without thought or understanding.

Ilovecheese Thu 30-Jun-22 21:35:43

I've read the tweets. They seem to me to be supportive of trans people. Which ones are objectionable?

Mollygo Thu 30-Jun-22 21:30:59

Her views on trans people, AmberSpyglass? Like Ilovecheese I hope to learn where to access your sources.

IwasaMaidofKent Thu 30-Jun-22 21:29:50

Ilovecheese

AmberSpyglass could you direct me to her views on transgender people in her own words?

www.glamour.com/story/a-complete-breakdown-of-the-jk-rowling-transgender-comments-controversy
There is a transcript of JKR’s tweets here.

Ilovecheese Thu 30-Jun-22 21:06:46

AmberSpyglass could you direct me to her views on transgender people in her own words?

AmberSpyglass Thu 30-Jun-22 21:04:19

She isn’t hiding away, though. Personally I don’t like the books and I like her views on trans people even less, but she’s hardly a hermit.

Cherrytree59 Thu 30-Jun-22 20:13:45

I think it would be impossible to cancel an author who has a worldwide readership.

Books and films loved by adults and children.

Harry Potter merchandise virtually in every shop .
Lego Harry Potter computer games as well huge amount of
Lego merchandise such as Hogwarts train, school, Night bus etc etc.

We will all be long gone, as will today's Woke brigade, but JK's legacy - her books will still be around for generations to come.

To her credit, she stood up and supported the rights of Women and Girl's to have and keep their safe places and also that of women in sports right to compete fair and square against women of their own Sex .