Sick people in shops

nanna8

This was a young bloke and I’d be surprised if he any lung disease but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had Covid. A lot of us cough but most of us protect our mouths when we do so and don’t cough all over others. I have had Covid and 4 vaccinations but I still don’t want to be coughed all over, thanks. Nothing to do with Christianity, either. What a nasty comment that was. Oh, and we were both wearing masks .

Why on earth might a young man not have lung disease? Or asthma? Poor bloke. I hope he didn't see you running out of the store

I cough a lot. I have asthma and scarring on my lungs from when I had Covid. I do wear a mask in shops though.

Marydoll probably not. While I would, and do respect how someone feels, when out. But if I had any severe problems, I simply wouldn't want to to rely on anyone else doing things to protect me. I simply would not trust my self protection to anyone but myself.

so if you are vulnerable its down to you to protect yourself....you can't keep calling people selfish.

Of course it the responsibility of those of us, who are CEV and immunocompromised to keep ourselves safe. I wouldn't expect anyone to keep me safe. The vulnerability is mine.
However, are we to stay in our homes forever?

Sometimes, I become quite sad at the lack of compassion, humanity, and consideration for others, I see on GN.
I often wonders how some posters would react if they suddenly found themselves, labelled as CEV. Would their opinions change?

M0nica

I might add I am deeply cynical about all public health announcements and indeed anything else.

I have been reading a book on how over the last 10-15 years, almost all government ministries have quietly built up units staffed by behavioural psychologists, whose sole purpose is to persuade us to do things, accept things, accept policies, by manipulating our feelings and emotions and desire to be 'normal' and like everybody else.

I can remember driving up a motorway, where for about 20 miles the message on the gantries said 'Take your rubbish home it is what other people do'. It is David Cameron and his 'nudge' policy

I ended tearing a supermarket bill in to lots of tiny pieces and dribbling it out of the passenger window, pieces of paper, too small to be any kind of a nuisance or even be seen, washed away with the first shower of rain.

A lot of the COVID advertising was of this nature aimed at keeping us fearful and scared to ensure compliance with government diktats

Why go to so much trouble to prove a point that no one even knew you were making

My partner has had covid with no symptoms as do lots of people...you are likely far more at risk from these people than the man you talk of ....people are carrying on with their lives these days...so if you are vulnerable its down to you to protect yourself....you can't keep calling people selfish....lots have to work with covid now as they don't get paid ...they have to pick their kids up .... they have to get provisions ... we've moved on ....we all have to make our own decisions now.... very judgy OP?

I might add I am deeply cynical about all public health announcements and indeed anything else.

I have been reading a book on how over the last 10-15 years, almost all government ministries have quietly built up units staffed by behavioural psychologists, whose sole purpose is to persuade us to do things, accept things, accept policies, by manipulating our feelings and emotions and desire to be 'normal' and like everybody else.

I can remember driving up a motorway, where for about 20 miles the message on the gantries said 'Take your rubbish home it is what other people do'. It is David Cameron and his 'nudge' policy

I ended tearing a supermarket bill in to lots of tiny pieces and dribbling it out of the passenger window, pieces of paper, too small to be any kind of a nuisance or even be seen, washed away with the first shower of rain.

A lot of the COVID advertising was of this nature aimed at keeping us fearful and scared to ensure compliance with government diktats

I would have left too.
It turns my stomach to hear one of those 'choky' coughs.. whatever it's caused by, I don't want to be near it!
That's my choice!

The best we can all do is wear a mask ourselves, then we don't unwittingly pass it on to anyone else (hopefully) so there will be less people around who can pass it back to us, further down the line.

It's also about viral load. If there were two people in the Albert Hall and one had Covid, it's unlikely the other one would be infected, unless they were standing very close and talking directly.

I think some people are being over-critical of nanna8. If the young man in question was "coughing everywhere", that suggests to me that he was not covering his mouth or coughing into his elbow. People with lung problems are not prevented from having good manners, as I'm sure those GNers with lung and other problems would agree!

Because of our age we still wear a mask in supermarkets. We have had covid, tested negative but can't shift the cough yet. He could have had any number of problems but it would have been good if he covered his mouth. Covid is now very difficult to avoid unless you stay indoors all the time.

ExDancer

So WHO does the mask protect? Other people or the wearer?
From public health notices at the start of the pandemic we were led to believe we wore masks to protect others.

There were some really rubbish messages at the beginning. Nobody really knew much about the virus at all. People thought it was like Ebola. However, once it was known that the virus was airborne and could be spread by quite small droplets, it was also shown by many studies that masks cut down transmission. It's not rocket science. Over the years, there has been much research on the spread of air droplets. If you put up a barrier between one person's nose/mouth and another person's nose/mouth, the virus can't attach itself to a new host and will just die.

Both. A mask can protect you and other people. The protection works both ways.

So WHO does the mask protect? Other people or the wearer?
From public health notices at the start of the pandemic we were led to believe we wore masks to protect others.

nanna8

This was a young bloke and I’d be surprised if he any lung disease but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had Covid. A lot of us cough but most of us protect our mouths when we do so and don’t cough all over others. I have had Covid and 4 vaccinations but I still don’t want to be coughed all over, thanks. Nothing to do with Christianity, either. What a nasty comment that was. Oh, and we were both wearing masks .

The "young bloke" could have Cystic Fibrosis, an inherited condition affection the lungs and digestive system.

....."No excuse, there is a delivery service available at very little cost. " Then why don't you use it?

MayBee70

I would hope that, if he had cystic fibrosis, he would be wearing a mask in indoor places.

If he had cystic fibrosis, he may not have been able to tolerate wearing a mask.

I would hope that, if he had cystic fibrosis, he would be wearing a mask in indoor places.

I would not be at all surprised if a young man had a lung disease.

Let me start with asthma, cystic fibrosis, tuberculosis and many more diseases, some genetic that can affect young people.

AudilO
See my post @14.06.
Bat shit bonkers ?

Oh my goodness you are saying this was a young bloke so you would be surprised if he had any lung disease! Jeez!!!! I’ve heard it all now.

Oopsadaisy - OP says that the man was not wearing a mask, so she was probably wise to avoid him.

nanna8 "This was a young bloke and I'd be surprised if he had had any lung disease" Why the surprise, lung disease does not just affect older people but people of all ages. Ultimately you must do what you feel right for your own safety just as we all must do.

pandapatch
Perhaps you could buy a bell to let everyone know that your unclean ?
Dark humour, I know, but it’s getting ridiculous.