Prince Harry’s speech

maddyone

Did Harry actually say his mother was murdered because she was with a man who wasn’t white? If he did it’s a shame, because it buys into the conspiracy theory. I believe Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, and was in a car with a driver who was drunk and speeding.

Harry said something like, his mother was chased to her death while she was with someone who wasn't white. Which, I think, is factually correct.

He didn't want a similar thing to happen to him.

But, if you are a conspiracy theorist who will only ever interpret things to make M&H look like the worst examples of humanity ever, and like to twist things to support your bizarre world view, you might think that he said his mother had been murdered because she was with a man that wasn't white and that H is ignoring all the other facts.

It has been all over the news that Harry and Meghan and children have been invited to visit the Queen at Balmoral this summer. I’ve no idea if it’s true or if they’ll go. It’s also been suggested that if they go, there will be no other royals apart from the Queen there when they visit. That would seem to be sensible to me, if it’s true.

Did Harry actually say his mother was murdered because she was with a man who wasn’t white? If he did it’s a shame, because it buys into the conspiracy theory. I believe Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, and was in a car with a driver who was drunk and speeding.

Joseanne

Callistemon21

Elegran

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

I don't think he's a natural public speaker.
Despite everything he does and has done, he seems to lack confidence.

So why does he put himself through it then?
We know he flinches at every camera click, he told us so and we can see he is really nervous, so I can't understand why he puts himself in these situations. It can't be good for his BP.

I don't know, Joseanne.

Meghan is a better public speaker than her husband. She has spoken out on Women's Rights for years.

Perhaps the Queen has invited them, perhaps they are confused, they said they were married three days before they
were married, Harry said he didn’t have bike rides with his father when he was a child, photographs show he did,

His mother was murdered because she was with a man who
wasn’t white, seems he had forgotten she was with Hasnet Khan
for two years.

It's difficult to know what to say. Family upsets are so hurtful and to have one that is played out for the world to see must be just horrible. Harry has said how he feels numerous times which is fair enough,but to keep on twisting the knife is unfathomable,why can't he just leave it alone and let both sides get on with their lives.. Why choose Christmas? surely to goodness he could at least allow the Queen to have that in peace? Preaching compassion? He seems to have little or none for his 'much loved' grandmother. He may one day regret it and wish he'd been kinder.

Jaberwok

That apparently is the case Annie, it is so sad to see the change in Harry. His memoirs are now set to come out at Christmas. Poor Queen, hasn't she had enough to put up with from these two in her twilight years without, what could be her last Christmas overshadowed by this latest offering. I just don't understand how Harry can keep doing this to his 96 year old grandmother who loves him and whom he purports to love?This type of cruelty is beyond me whoever the family is, how can anyone preach kindness when their actions are so unkind for no apparent reason. Baffling.

Agree absolutely. His treatment of the Queen and family are totally baffling. It seems so bitter and unkind, we can hardly recognise him from the young man he was. Tom Bower has painted a very dark picture of Meghan and the kind of person she is, and he is very careful to verify his claims. It seems from everything we've heard she is a master manipulator. I would like to be around in 10 or 20 years when the scales fall from Harry's eyes and he sees more clearly.

Ooohhh, have you met her Jaberwok? To know so much about her character, you must have met her and be on good terms with her, I should think?

If the Queen is happy to have Harry and co around her, does that mean we can stop posting how awful it must be for her? Or are we just being patronising because she is old?

The Queen is a very forgiving person and would love to have her family round her however much they try to make her life a misery. However, It is not certain that this invitation has been extended to the Sussex's, rumour is rife. Unless the security issue is sorted to Harry's satisfaction they wouldn't come any way.

Apparently the Queen has invited them to Balmoral to visit her. And after all this nasty stuff he's done to her too, who would have thought it?

Baffling.

That apparently is the case Annie, it is so sad to see the change in Harry. His memoirs are now set to come out at Christmas. Poor Queen, hasn't she had enough to put up with from these two in her twilight years without, what could be her last Christmas overshadowed by this latest offering. I just don't understand how Harry can keep doing this to his 96 year old grandmother who loves him and whom he purports to love?This type of cruelty is beyond me whoever the family is, how can anyone preach kindness when their actions are so unkind for no apparent reason. Baffling.

Pre his marriage Harry was generally regarded with affection, and his mishaps were tolerated.
Since his marriage he has antagonised many by his behaviour, and while he is very obviously not a good public speaker he has to follow the self-promotion trail because at present he has very little else to offer.
I sincerely hope he is not going to persist with his book and attempt to rake up yet more unpleasantness which will ultimately rebound on him.

He has changed so much in 4 years , he had lived his life with
much support and protection, even had Gurkha guards when in the army.

Callistemon21

Elegran

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

I don't think he's a natural public speaker.
Despite everything he does and has done, he seems to lack confidence.

So why does he put himself through it then?
We know he flinches at every camera click, he told us so and we can see he is really nervous, so I can't understand why he puts himself in these situations. It can't be good for his BP.

Elegran

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

I don't think he's a natural public speaker.
Despite everything he does and has done, he seems to lack confidence.

Just wanted to say I find it strange to be bothered by a couple holding hands. Can’t think of anything that affects us less. I get that some weren’t raised in affectionate environments but it’s just weird to even care. I chuckled out loud at the quip about the Queen not doing it. As if anyone looks to model their marriages after the RF. How very odd lol

If his overall demeanour (footage of him sitting waiting to speak, and group photos after) at the UN building, is anything to go by, he was having a particularly bad day!

Whilst I dislike with avengence his ridiculous rubbishing of his family, I am beginning to feel just a smidgen of empathy for him.
Jumping from the frying pan into the fire, and chickens coming home to roost, springs to mind.

Oh, I watched it even though I said I wouldn't. To start with I thought I had the wrong speech because it bore no relation to some of the criticisms of it on here. I swear, if Harry had come up with the Gettysburg Address there would be posters here saying he had made it too short ?

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

My view of Harry's speech was that it was empty of content, didnt reflect the requirement, was delivered competently, but without Harry's usual energy. Which he seems to have lost more and more over time.

Like I said: hypocrisy.

"Yes, net zero, that's the thing, definitely." says Mr Johnson.

Allows licences for new coal mine in Cumbria and new oilfield in the North Sea.

Wasn’t Boris committed to net zero?

Good answer Volver

Well seeing as you ask...

Invest in renewable energy sources. Subsidise net zero transport. Educate people about what's important. Don't artificially support carbon-intensive industries. Hence build up an expertise in these positive areas that we can sell to the rest of the world.

Simples.

volver

So what do you expect maddyone? Everybody to stop flying? That's not going to happen.

The hypocrisy is with governments who say all the right things about climate change, and then plan for new coal mines and new oil fields. The governments who try to convince us that net zero is a bad idea because of those pesky Chinese and their power stations. The governments that try to tell us that we can't afford to change because there isn't enough money.

That's the hypocrisy.

Anyway, way off topic now.

What would you do, then?