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Another poor child killed at the hands of his parent and lover

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BlueBelle Fri 22-Jul-22 20:04:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-62163849

This beautiful teenage boy was beaten and tortured for months at the hands of his mother and lover I hope they not only rot in prison for ever but they are beaten till they beg themselves

Something HAS to be done to protect our children I don’t believe in the death penalty but there has to be something more than a few years of being ‘looked after’

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 14:19:18

Those who haven't read it, please don't. You won't sleep.

FarNorth Sat 23-Jul-22 14:15:57

No sentencing until at least October.

Allsorts Sat 23-Jul-22 14:14:55

I haven’t read it and don’t want to, every one of the stories makes me physically ill and plays on my mind.How anyone can do those things let alone a mother, they should have the death penalty. There is no salvation for them. I do hope very much they are got at in prison. The thought of anyone laying a finger on mine worries me. I would do anything to protect them. Just think how the police must feel, the people that deal with a young life so cruelly taken, it must traumatise them for ever. I know it sounds hard what I say but I stand by it.

shoppinggirl Sat 23-Jul-22 14:08:09

How could anyone be so cruel. I thought a mother's job was to protect her child. RIP poor, sweet boy. It reduces me to tears to think of his dreadful suffering.

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Jul-22 14:00:12

I had to mute the tv because I couldn't listen to the details but I saw the photo's of the muscle bound monster who was partly responsible.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 11:16:31

There are monsters in our midst.

Chewbacca Sat 23-Jul-22 11:14:53

79 children each year murdered by parents or step parents

Dear God in heaven; I hadn't realised that their were that many. Meanwhile, we cut back on children's services, social workers and family support services.

Iam64 Sat 23-Jul-22 11:03:01

I wonder if it seems to be getting worse because the newspapers now print details from the trials, as well as photographs and videos these murderous parents took of the abuse they were subjecting the child to. As did Hindley and Brady.

I’ve looked for statistics. The nspcc report deaths fluctuate every year. The average over the past 28 years is 79 children each year murdered by parents or step parents. Of the children who are the subject of child protection plans, two of those vulnerable children will be killed each year.
Infants under a year are most at risk. Boys more likely to be killed, seriously hurt, than girls.

I agree that it seems we are facing increases in deaths. We are certainly facing an increase in neglect and abuse. Care proceedings doubled during lock down. We have huge problems with drug and alcohol dependent parents. We. An affordable to invest in family support, preventive and treatment services.
Imo we can’t afford not to. 11 years of austerity has not helped children at risk or in need

Chestnut Sat 23-Jul-22 10:37:31

Kandinsky

It seems to be getting worse - you’d hear about these terrible cases maybe once every few years, now it’s 3 or 4 times a year.
What’s going on?
I can’t read about it it’s just too upsetting - poor child. I hope his murderers rot in hell.

I think the pandemic has had an impact on people's mental health over the last two years. People have been trapped in their homes, unable to work, off school, tempers flaring, pent up frustrations boiling over. Obviously I'm not saying this is an excuse for killing your child but it has contributed to nasty aggressive types going over the top. People who were simmering away under normal conditions, just keeping the lid on, have boiled over. The rage has come out.

I knew this would happen when we went into lockdown and only allowed out for food and one walk every day. I was so upset thinking of all the children trapped in tiny homes with nasty angry, frustrated parents. So I'm not surprised there has been an increase in these appalling crimes.

Oldbat1 Sat 23-Jul-22 09:59:33

Poor poor lad. What monsters exist in this world. I hope they are never released.

henetha Sat 23-Jul-22 09:50:57

I can't understand why these dreadful child deaths keep happening. It's almost unbearable to read about yet another one. I hope the parents suffer terribly in prison.
I wish I knew what we could do to prevent more tragedies like this.

Iam64 Sat 23-Jul-22 08:09:22

Thanks nightowl for confirming children’s services were not involved.

nightowl Sat 23-Jul-22 07:02:52

I haven’t read anything that suggests this poor child was known or referred to Children’s Services, in fact everything I’ve read suggests not. He came into the country during the pandemic and ‘rarely attended school’ at a time when many children were kept off school due to covid. The attack that killed him happened during school holidays.

It is a terrible story, the poor boy must have suffered so much. It is impossible to imagine how parents and carers can choose to inflict so much pain on a defenceless child.

Kandinsky Sat 23-Jul-22 06:24:08

It seems to be getting worse - you’d hear about these terrible cases maybe once every few years, now it’s 3 or 4 times a year.
What’s going on?
I can’t read about it it’s just too upsetting - poor child. I hope his murderers rot in hell.

BlueBelle Sat 23-Jul-22 04:54:09

Chewbacca you can bet they ll be protected
I hope they are given a taste of their own medicine a very BIG taste nothing not even death can be bad enough though The poor lad must have been in so much pain he died of sepsis from the broken bones
I agree with you mumof social workers like mental health workers have their hands tied in SO many ways they are run off their feet and blamed for everything

mumofmadboys Sat 23-Jul-22 04:41:35

It is not fair to blame social workers. They are doing a really stressful job and have large caseloads. We never hear of their successes, only the failures. No system will stop the occasional child death sadly. Perhaps more pastoral care at school - someone the child can trust to report that all is not well at home. Lockdown made things more difficult in this case.

Chewbacca Sat 23-Jul-22 00:24:57

I think that life in prison isn't easy for child abusers/killers Chestnut.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 00:23:58

Yes. Lovely and smart in his uniform. I wish he'd ran away.

Chestnut Sat 23-Jul-22 00:21:21

What has upset me so much is that dear boy's innocent face. He looked such a nice boy and so happy with his school friends. He didn't look hard or streetwise. He deserved a good home and loving parents. Maybe that brute (the mother's 'partner') was jealous of him and took it out on him. Absolutely hearbreaking.

Chewbacca Sat 23-Jul-22 00:11:06

Quite agree Chestnut but, if it's anything like Baby P's killers, they'll be out on license in 13 years.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 00:08:10

I wish I hadn't read it. sadangry

Chestnut Sat 23-Jul-22 00:03:48

There are some cases where I sincerely wish we still had the death penalty. It was abolished because of the chance of error, but some cases are so utterly awful, and where there is no doubt they are guilty and therefore no chance of error. There is no other punishment that could ever be enough for these two (and others like them). They are evil to the core.

Kate1949 Fri 22-Jul-22 23:50:55

Me too. Scum.

Georgesgran Fri 22-Jul-22 23:49:21

OMG. I’ve just clicked on the link and seen the first paragraph and that’s more than enough. She was eating toast!!!! WTF!!!
I’m not an advocate for the death penalty, but do these scum deserve to be kept alive? Is the loss of their free lives for a few years a real punishment?
I’m so angry.

MissAdventure Fri 22-Jul-22 23:39:43

I haven't read it, and I won't if I can help it.
I can pretty much guess the script, though.