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Another poor child killed at the hands of his parent and lover

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BlueBelle Fri 22-Jul-22 20:04:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-62163849

This beautiful teenage boy was beaten and tortured for months at the hands of his mother and lover I hope they not only rot in prison for ever but they are beaten till they beg themselves

Something HAS to be done to protect our children I don’t believe in the death penalty but there has to be something more than a few years of being ‘looked after’

Nanna58 Fri 22-Jul-22 20:06:06

I read this and just wept, nothing else to say.

Iam64 Fri 22-Jul-22 21:32:27

I couldn’t read the details. Absolutely horrific.

Chewbacca Fri 22-Jul-22 21:38:46

I just can't bring myself to read the horrific details of, yet another, child murdered by their mother and partner. I feel guilty for that inability, but I just can't.

BlueBelle Fri 22-Jul-22 21:42:08

I believe we need to know what’s happening to these children we need to hurt, we need to cry, because we need to do something about it I don’t know what but something has got to happen these vile people have got to face more punishment than languishing in a well kept prison

Doodledog Fri 22-Jul-22 21:48:33

I just can't get my head around why people do this. I know that some get their kicks from hurting people, but how a mother can stand by and watch her child being hurt is beyond me. If Mr Dog even raised his voice to our children I was ready to pounce - he never raised his hand, but I know for sure that there would have been no chance of my standing back and letting it happen if he had.

There really are no words, are there?

BlueBelle Fri 22-Jul-22 21:55:48

You are so right chewbacca if my ex who was not good to me at all had done anything to any of our children I would have been out the door with them faster than you could say Jack Robinson
The man in this case a body builder was a complete monster but the mother was as big or bigger monster I want them punished fuller never ever let out and bread and water would be too good

Chewbacca Fri 22-Jul-22 22:10:42

What I really cannot stomach is reading that the monsters who do this always cry when they're sentenced. No tears shed for the child they've brutalised for weeks or months; just for themselves. It truly sickens me to the pit of my stomach. Bread & water BlueBelle? That's not the worst I'd wish upon them.

rafichagran Fri 22-Jul-22 22:15:15

I dont believe in vengeance, but I have to admit I hope they get some of the same, I am not proud of these feelings, but these two are a cruel pair of shits.
I did read the link and I feel these disgusting wretches should never come out of prison, the polite word for them is sadists.

Mollygo Fri 22-Jul-22 22:15:53

This is so upsetting and even worse is the lack of remorse either from his mother or the partner. The whole report sickened me.
How can we stop this happening? I wish I knew.

mumofmadboys Fri 22-Jul-22 22:39:57

RIP Sebastian. I'm so sorry you were failed.

maddyone Fri 22-Jul-22 22:51:09

I don’t know how we can stop this, but I wish it could be stopped. So many young lives destroyed by, more often than not, the parent’s partner. But how do the mothers stand by and watch, or even worse, join in?

Luckygirl3 Fri 22-Jul-22 22:53:14

I am wondering if lockdown played its part in allowing these people to get away with their actions. The school head talked of him as being confident and it is hard to square that with what was going on. School is a critical part of the system that should help to spot trouble.

He seems to have been failed all round. Poor lad.

Chewbacca Fri 22-Jul-22 23:03:56

I've wondered the same thing Luckygirl, there has been an alarming number of cases since 2019.

MissAdventure Fri 22-Jul-22 23:10:42

I believe there is only one fitting punishment.
That's all.

Beautful Fri 22-Jul-22 23:20:09

Such a lovely looking lad ... God bless him ... he didn't deserve this at all ....upset me too ... I read a post a few days ago on here about a lady who was concerned about children by her ... hope she reported them ... if nothing good ... but ... if anything untowards could be the children's saviour ... years ago ... we popped to someone's house ... my hubby shouted at our daughter, she screamed ... as soon as we got home a police car was either outside someone had reported the incident (obviously took car reg number) or came about a minute or so later ... can't quite remember as years ago, wanted a word with our daughter to make sure she was OK ... was this a good thing ? Of course it was

MissAdventure Fri 22-Jul-22 23:25:50

I reported the very scant info I had on a child being abused a while back.
All of the services are involved, and had somehow deemed this piece of crap as suitable to bring up a tiny little boy.

I have no idea if my info was acted on, but it was blatantly clear that the parent wasn't fit to be in charge of a child, just by their other behaviour.

Kate1949 Fri 22-Jul-22 23:30:41

That poor lovely boy.

Beautful Fri 22-Jul-22 23:31:57

At least you reported it , let's hope the child will be ok

Juicylucy Fri 22-Jul-22 23:36:53

I was shaking in anger when I read this, have we not learnt anything from cases in the past. Our so called social services let these children down time after time. An investigation that takes time and money every single time this happens and still nothing changes. How about using that time and money and apply better training, sorry to say but there is something to be said about a mothers instinct in my area majority of our social workers are not mothers and appear to be to young to pick up signs. I don’t care if anyone comes at me for my last comment, the PC brigade need to go and common sense needs to prevail. Another young sweet soul lost at the hands of those that should protect him. RIP Sebastian

MissAdventure Fri 22-Jul-22 23:39:43

I haven't read it, and I won't if I can help it.
I can pretty much guess the script, though.

Georgesgran Fri 22-Jul-22 23:49:21

OMG. I’ve just clicked on the link and seen the first paragraph and that’s more than enough. She was eating toast!!!! WTF!!!
I’m not an advocate for the death penalty, but do these scum deserve to be kept alive? Is the loss of their free lives for a few years a real punishment?
I’m so angry.

Kate1949 Fri 22-Jul-22 23:50:55

Me too. Scum.

Chestnut Sat 23-Jul-22 00:03:48

There are some cases where I sincerely wish we still had the death penalty. It was abolished because of the chance of error, but some cases are so utterly awful, and where there is no doubt they are guilty and therefore no chance of error. There is no other punishment that could ever be enough for these two (and others like them). They are evil to the core.

Kate1949 Sat 23-Jul-22 00:08:10

I wish I hadn't read it. sadangry