Another bastion bites the dust?

My DiL is a Veterinary Surgeon, graduated 4 years ago and around 75% of her cohort then were female.
It's even higher now.

If women had been the dominant sex/gender for the past 30,000 years or so some of them would find it difficult to concede part of their power and roles to upsurging, successful men. We need to see this in terms of equal and different (as Joni Mitchel sang) and recognise that nowadays men need help in adjusting rather than knee-jerk abuse.

My eldest ironed his own shirts from 15 and still does (plus his daughter's dresses now). My youngest baked me a great cake for mother's day and loves the fact that his partner (female) has more power tools than he has. So lets realise that not all women wait on their DSs and not all men assign women certain roles.

Yes so for example adjustments for people with disabilities is treating people equally. If you treated people exactly the same many would experience real disadvantage.

Sueki44

I too feel a bit sorry for men. I appreciate that historically they have had a pretty good deal but I do feel the scales have shifted.
White, working class males are now the ones least likely to go to university.

We have screamed (rightly) for equality, but are now asking for time off for periods and the menopause. Chunks of maternity leave also hamper womens progress in the workplace. I can understand why some men feel resentful.

I don’t think your grasp of the word ‘equality’ is correct. Equality means being treated with equal rights, equal respect, and being paid equally. It doesn’t mean being treated exactly the same. If it did, there would be no gendered toilets, for example and women in white collar jobs would need to wear suits and ties. Time off for menopause and periods is, therefore, treating women with equal respect.

My son was the neat tidy one that did things my daughter was the lazy messy one. I don't think it is in built but the way we treat boys and girls differently. We have different expectations and give them different goals. We should treat men and women the same if we expect them to act the same. We should keep gender seperation to only where it is really absolutly neccerssary and at all other times it should be banned. Then maybe there will be less of the us and them attitude and more empathy between the genders.

StarDreamer

Surely what I post cannot be mansplaining because there is no intention on my part to treat anyone with disdain.

Isn’t the point about mansplaining that it’s innate, you don’t have to intend to do it to do it anyway?

If my boys left dirty washing around it didn’t get washed. They had to put it in the basket. I never waited on them.

Allow - not found!

I blame us mums!
Little girls are independent. ‘I’ll do it up, I’ll put my coat on’ I’ll help’ etc.
Boys sit back and put a foot up to have their shoes/socks put on while reading or on a games console. They leave their dirty dishes/washing etc for someone else to pick up, and because were in a hurry, we found it!
We need to change this behaviour from the outset ladies!

StarDreamer

LINK > Making the Chocolate Teapot

Maybe I should have given the chap the video and he could have learned.

Surely what I post cannot be mansplaining because there is no intention on my part to treat anyone with disdain.

biglouis

Mansplaining

I sell online and a male bought an item from me and then gave me a long list of instructions as to how it was to be packed.

I told him I had only been sending items around the world for 20 years but thanked him for his "useful" instructions on how to pack for international travel which I would be sure to file in an appropriate place.

He replied "dont mention it" and clearly did not see the sarcasm which dripped from every word.

Did you actually comply with what the customer requested regarding the packing of his purchase?

I see that other 'Over 50s' sites are available.
Does anyone know whether there is evidence of 'mansplaining' on these?

Have you seen the photos of American softball player Lauren Chamberlin? She posed nude to show other girls that being big is acceptable. She talks about how big her body is and how she has learned love it. Should be shown to any young girl who is struggling to make herself thin. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5884495/Softball-player-Lauren-Chamberlain-poses-nude-ESPNs-Body-Issue.html

Mansplaining

I sell online and a male bought an item from me and then gave me a long list of instructions as to how it was to be packed.

I told him I had only been sending items around the world for 20 years but thanked him for his "useful" instructions on how to pack for international travel which I would be sure to file in an appropriate place.

He replied "dont mention it" and clearly did not see the sarcasm which dripped from every word.

MawtheMerrier

StarDreamer

MawtheMerrier wrote The FA even banned the womens’s game for 50 years, apparently because they feared its popularity!

Here is a link to a web story from Sky News.

The title on the page is different from the address of the page.

The title on the page is as follows.

> Euro 2022: Only in 1971 FA lifted half-century ban on women's organised football, now England are champions - what's next?

LINK > news.sky.com/story/euro-2022-the-glamour-and-national-focus-on-the-lionesses-should-not-mask-the-fact-that-challenges-remain-12663298

What I do not understand is on what basis the Football Association purportedly banned women's organised football.

They might have been able to say that the Football Association would not have anything to do with organising women's organised football. But as far as I am aware they had no right to ban it.

What is the history of this? Did they have rules such that no club that was holding Football Association membership could allow women to play on their football pitches, and restricttions of that nature?

I am wondering whether women were allowed to attend men's football matches as spectators.

I think this answers your question
The money raised that day was the equivalent of about £140,000 today. This focused the minds of those watching the Dick, Kerr Ladies and other women’s teams with mistrust and trepidation. It would be this hugely successful match that would trigger the devastation of the women’s game.
The FA and the political establishment were not blind to the growing popularity and success of women’s football. The huge sums of money being raised were outside their jurisdiction and control. Worse still, that money was no longer being raised to support the war wounded but was being channelled into political and working-class causes – causes antithetical to the establishment
I think the Guardian article is quite comprehensive on the (shameful) background to the story.
As I said - it was in danger of becoming too popular and the FA instead of harnessing the growing popularity of the game among women, instead tried to strangle it at birth.
Not the first or indeed last time women’s rights to equality have been cut off by the patriarchy.
Roe v Wade anybody?

Much of what happened in 1921 to women's football can be seen as a the equivalent of what happened in industry at the end of WW1. The women who had kept industry going and who had assumed men's roles were sent packing The Restoration of Pre-War Practices Act 1919 said all soldiers were entitled to have back the job they were doing before the war.

Thank you, volver.

LINK > Making the Chocolate Teapot

MawtheMerrier StarDreamer

The UK with Truss in charge have changed the document dealing with women’s rights leading to Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands not signing the current amended version -
«over deletion of abortion rights from gender statement»
The Guardian
which included a commitment to the repeal of any laws that “allow harmful practices, or restrict women’s and girls’ … sexual and reproductive health and rights, bodily autonomy.”

It is as if the UK want to be in step with US politics.

I did write the post News and politics 24 July Truss Sunak abortion

Oh, who stated what you have quoted please?

Me.

Its a rewording of how your post looks to women.

Parental leave can be shared in my area. Is this not a nation wide policy.

I too feel a bit sorry for men. I appreciate that historically they have had a pretty good deal but I do feel the scales have shifted.
White, working class males are now the ones least likely to go to university.

We have screamed (rightly) for equality, but are now asking for time off for periods and the menopause. Chunks of maternity leave also hamper womens progress in the workplace. I can understand why some men feel resentful.

volver

StarDreamer

RichmondPark1

"When you write we, please remember that Gransnet is not a women only space."

Someone up thread asked what mansplaining is. Please see above.

No, that was not mansplaining.

A woman posted about "we" in a manner that implied that "we" as in people participating in Gransnet, are all women.

My statement was therefore justified as such, it was not mansplaining simply because it was written by a man to a woman.

The name Gransnet is misleading as Gransnet is for people over fifty years of age, not just people who are grandmothers.

This is priceless.

"That's not mansplaining. Let me explain it to you because you don't understand."

Oh, who stated what you have quoted please?

Textbook!