Another bastion bites the dust?

Yes Maw you may well be on to something there. Perhaps it's a way of fighting back as some males don't like to lose ground.

Sometimes it feels like one step forward, two steps back.

I was talking about something very similar with one of my students last week. She was marvelling at the fact that despite girls out performing in most subjects at her school, that within 10 years, professionally they're on top. I asked her why she thought this was and she said without hesitating, 'Patriarchy'.

Females have always been the stronger sex, after all we have been propping up and supporting men since forever!

Now it’s time for this to be acknowledged and no doubt some men find it threatening.

Men will fight tooth and nail to stay top dogs. The ones of my generation and earlier were brought up to believe they are the superior sex. They don't want this to change.

I do question where we all want to be? Do we want women to become the new men? Isn’t it about equality of outcome, whoever you are?

Thank you to those of you who included the word 'some' in your comments about men.

I feel rather sorry for men these days. My lovely nephew was told by a female colleague during a discussion 'As a white heterosexual male, your opinion is irrelevant.'

Girls outperform boys at school due to changes in education. Qualifications were purely exam based, now they are mainly coursework based.

I'm not taking away the fact girls work hard to achieve success though

Kate1949

I feel rather sorry for men these days. My lovely nephew was told by a female colleague during a discussion 'As a white heterosexual male, your opinion is irrelevant.'

This is really a sad quote and one that I’ve heard many times. We should be educating our young people, both girls and boys, whatever their race to be kind, considerate and responsible. I’m afraid we are brewing trouble by excluding some men from ever having a voice again.

I agree Mattsmum.

Kate1949

I feel rather sorry for men these days. My lovely nephew was told by a female colleague during a discussion 'As a white heterosexual male, your opinion is irrelevant.'

Perhaps he was 'mansplaining'.

My granddaughter had to leave a football camp last week. She plays for a girls team and was hoping to improve her skills. . She was the only girl there and the boys refused to pass the ball to her so she was understandably upset. When questioned about this, the organiser said that that was what boys tend to do. I would have asked him why he wasn't challenging such sexist behaviour. Fortunately, my granddaughter is made of sterner stuff and it hasn't put her off the game.

Watching the lionesses now Brilliant! I agree women are finding a place in society they never had before and men can't cope with it.

Men and women are totally different,mens strenth ,but womens mental strenth i feel is a whole lot stronger.
But at the end of the day,we compliment each other.

Knittingnovice

Girls outperform boys at school due to changes in education. Qualifications were purely exam based, now they are mainly coursework based.

Not strictly true. Changes to the proportion of coursework or modules in relation to final exams in GCSEs were introduced in 2019.
What has changed though, is that girls are no longer “dominated” by boys in the subjects formerly seen as “hard” - maths, physics, chemistry , economics etc where as recently as 25 years ago the majority of teachers of these subjects in mixed schools were men. Single sex education at least gave girls female role models in women teachers.
There is no biological reason why girls should not achieve equally well in final exam based courses or boys where there is coursework . I have experience of both doing both. The big difference I saw in secondary schools was the belief on the part of the girls that they could aim high.

FarNorth

Kate1949

I feel rather sorry for men these days. My lovely nephew was told by a female colleague during a discussion 'As a white heterosexual male, your opinion is irrelevant.'

Perhaps he was 'mansplaining'.

Just as much it appears that some women complain, moan and whinge about men?

Parsley3

My granddaughter had to leave a football camp last week. She plays for a girls team and was hoping to improve her skills. . She was the only girl there and the boys refused to pass the ball to her so she was understandably upset. When questioned about this, the organiser said that that was what boys tend to do. I would have asked him why he wasn't challenging such sexist behaviour. Fortunately, my granddaughter is made of sterner stuff and it hasn't put her off the game.

This is awful behaviour and I hope the camp had been called out about it?

I feel sorry for men these days. Whilst I support equality completely but I can't help feeling, in some parts of life, it's gone too far in the other direction. Sometimes men can't do right for doing wrong. Even simple gestures that were seen as good manners when I was growing up, such as holding doors open, are now seen as insulting by some.

The football coach was well out of order. It's his job to make the game inclusive, not excuse bad behaviour.

Is the increase in domestic violence not based on the recent lockdown figures?

I've no idea what mansplaining is.

Apparently an activity needs two components to both be present for the activity to be designated as mansplaining.

Firstly, a man is explaining something to a woman.

Secondly, the man must be acting towards the woman as if she is inferior to him.

Alas, it has been known that if a man explains something to a woman that some women, not necessarily the woman to whom something is being explained, will sometimes deem the actiivity to be mansplaining even if only the first condition applies, and particularly if the woman to whom the explanation is being presented already knows the information that is being presented to her, even if the man is unaware of that prior knowledge and is trying to be helpful.

A financial officer at work once explained to me how a piece of software worked and how it did the analysis. I hadn't asked for that information.

I'd written the software.

That's mansplaining.