Archie Battersbee

Kate i am so sorry for the loss of your nephew and sister-in-law, my cousin was struck and killed instantly by lightning 37 years ago aged 13, my Aunty has never been the same, severe mental health issues and understandably so, i do fear for Hollie and the whole family.
I have however just seen something that states support will be withdrawn at 10.30 tonight, i don’t wholly believe it but i pray ??

I too fear for her future emotions. My sister-in-law collapsed to the floor in a fit when her son, my lovely nephew died. She didn't live many years after that herself. I hope Archie's parents get lots of support.

* Archie

So back to ECHR, i wish for Alfie this could end, i do of course get how she must be feeling, frustration, complete grief, anger etc etc, but this poor baby of hers just needs be comforted and allowed to be set free by her.
A completely different scenario but it all ends the same way, my Mother died in a hospice (from Ovarian cancer) ‘naturally’ but the necrosis was there for days before she eventually passed, it was there, in the room, and for me i prayed for it to end for my Mum’s dignity…
I pray she does what Archie needs, this chapter will pass and i fear for her future emotions after he has gone ?

Callistemon21

I do hope the media don't turn on a bereaved mother.

She lost Archie a while ago but can't accept it. How would we feel if it was our child or grandchild?

I hope she will be able to grieve in peace with help.

I do hope the media don't turn on a bereaved mother.

I really hope it doesn't. Regardless of anything she's said - they have taken advantage of every opportunity to sensationalise her grief.

If they do - I hope people will do what they did with The Sun in Liverpool, and boycott.

Archie's mother needs time and space to come to terms with both the manner of his death and the fact of it. A media campaign against her would be evil.

What cruelty to post that link

Well said Monica where on earth karmalady read this I have no idea. It is as you say a tragedy for Archie's family and we should be thinking of them and the pain they are going through now.

The back story is irrelevant to the current tragedy. The tragedy is real and the feelings of the bereft family are as intense regardless of whether they have a chequered history, or are pillars of the community.

I don't think I want to know either Archie or his mother's story. It's enough for me that a young life has ended tragically and a mother is clinging to hopes most of us think are impossible. I don't need to know any more. It's a tragedy for everyone involved including the medical staff who have done their best.

Good.
I hope gransnet, do, too.

A word to the wise - Mumsnet have been deleting links to Kiwifarms

Callistemon21

I do hope the media don't turn on a bereaved mother.

She lost Archie a while ago but can't accept it. How would we feel if it was our child or grandchild?

I hope she will be able to grieve in peace with help.

Losing a child of any age unhinges you. Even when you return to your normal self you will always have the memories of that time.

I do hope Archie’s mother doesn’t carry the added burden of bitterness. She has a long road to travel towards acceptance.

The boy never had a chance from birth. The story will eventually come out. I read it and already had that instinct, gut feeling about what is, has been, going on. Poor child

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Yes she can Annie.

Whilst he is on life support she can still touch him and see him

I do hope the media don't turn on a bereaved mother.

She lost Archie a while ago but can't accept it. How would we feel if it was our child or grandchild?

I hope she will be able to grieve in peace with help.

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I don’t know the grief of losing a child or grandchild Annie and I hope I never do.
However I do have empathy for parents who have lost a child. Or is it sympathy? Whatever, I feel for them. There but for the grace of God go I.

Thank you Jane , why do some think they know what a grief
stricken mother is thinking and feeling, I knew a woman whose
child said he didn’t want to go to school because he had a cold,
she sent him to school, he was killed, she blamed herself for
his death. You are so right about reactions when grieving.

JJI totally agree with you. I’m saddened by her posting the medics names on social media but the company should take the posts down. However for Archie’s mother I feel absolutely emphatic. She is enduring every mother’s nightmare.

By the way, no one has to be dignified. Lots of people do not act with dignity when faced with something like this and acting with dignity doesn't make you a better person or more admirable. It just makes you, you. It is about time we stopped expecting people going through trauma to act or behave in a socially acceptable manner, some people can;t and lots that do behave in a way society doesn't deem fit, forget anyway (it's certainly been the case in my own family)

Well said JJ

Annie, hopefully the vast majority of us on Gransnet have the emotional intelligence to not judge her and realise how her behaviour/actions are as a result of fear and trauma. I don't judge her. I worry for her.

I'm sorry about your daughter

Chestnut grief is sometimes the only time a mother is really selfish ,and that is normal .Its her child ,she carried him for 9 months ,she had hopes and dreams for his future ,surely we can see that grief is whats fuelling her behaviour?
Yes ,its unfair of her to blame the hospital staff but ,its the hospital staff she sees every day ,they are her focus ,who else is there to blame?
I'm sure there are many of us who "blamed" doctors for wrong decisions I know I did when I lost babies ,until I had come through the first tidal wave of grief and disbelief ,Then I realised its nobodies fault not even mine.Though that stayed with me for years .
My heart breaks for Archies mother and his family I wish them peace,but that will take time