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Something I don’t understand Archie Battersbee

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Fleurpepper Fri 05-Aug-22 12:34:58

Others have explained well. But your own answer says it all

'If the poor child is in fact brain stem dead as the doctors say, then surely he wouldn’t suffer pain or discomfort to be moved to hospice? '

so what is the point, if it is not for his benefit?

Riverwalk Fri 05-Aug-22 12:28:08

We have to assume that the very experienced ITU doctors, and the various judges involved, would move him to a hospice if at all possible.

If they move him as he is with all the equipment, how are they to find sufficient staff to cope with the equipment and to then facilitate the withdrawing of it in a hospice? There are some hospices that accommodate residents with ventilators, usually those on them long-term who come in for respite for their families for a period of time.

Life support is much more than a ventilator. When support is removed highly skilled staff have to be at hand to deal with the consequences - unfortunately when things are 'switched off' it doesn't always result in peaceful slumber then death, things can get distressing and action is needed to prevent/alleviate this.

I don't why people think it's all so easy.

vegansrock Fri 05-Aug-22 12:20:43

They’d have to move the ventilator, heart pumping machine plus all the other hydrating and other machinery attached - all large, heavy and needing trained staff - would the hospice have staff to use these? If they disconnect then his heart would immediately stop and he’d be gone before they got in the ambulance.

Aveline Fri 05-Aug-22 12:16:56

I heard that his condition is so unstable that he might not survive the transport. How awful if he died in an ambulance. Terrible terrible tragedy. Wish I knew what the online dare was that led to his being in this state so we could be sure that others could be alerted to the dangerousness of it.

Luckygirl3 Fri 05-Aug-22 12:16:16

There is no gain to him to be moved. He is effectively dead. By the time they remove the artificial life support to move him, he is likely to have died already or to die en route.

The whole thing is so dreadful, as it has been played out in the spotlight of publicity which subjects the parents to influences that are not based on reason. Those poor parents.

Secretsquirrel1 Fri 05-Aug-22 12:14:15

Something I don’t understand about Archie Battersbee

What a terrible situation. It’s absolutely heartbreaking isn’t it.
And I was quite shocked to read that Archie’s family have even been denied the right to transfer him to a hospice.
I’m not a medical person and there’s something I don’t understand, that maybe someone knowledgeable would be able to explain?
If the poor child is in fact brain stem dead as the doctors say, then surely he wouldn’t suffer pain or discomfort to be moved to hospice?
I don’t understand how it would be detrimental to allow the parents to do this?
It seems very hard hearted to me. .

Secretsquirrel1 Fri 05-Aug-22 12:11:22

What a terrible situation. It’s absolutely heartbreaking isn’t it.
And I was quite shocked to read that Archie’s family have even been denied the right to transfer him to a hospice.
I’m not a medical person and there’s something I don’t understand, that maybe someone knowledgeable would be able to explain?
If the poor child is in fact brain stem dead as the doctors say, then surely he wouldn’t suffer pain or discomfort to be moved to hospice?
I don’t understand how it would be detrimental to allow the parents to do this?
It seems very hard hearted to me. .