For all the Boris fans out there!

NotSpaghetti

I apologise then Maddy and Dickens.
I assumed it was about my comments as I was quoted.
Sorry,

Me too, not aiming my comments at anyone in particular, except at the beginning where I agreed with two posters. The other comments were generalising.

NotSpaghetti

Dickens my post was objective. In what way did you think it wasn't please?

And Maddyone - I do hope you aren't implying I was judging Johnson's personal life.

As I said. I simply found the lack of contact in this situation "difficult to watch".

I was not aiming my comments at you personally, just generalising.

Beckett

Let's face it - no matter what Boris does some people will find a way to denigrate him for it - I imagine if it were revealed he had donated a kidney some would be saying they feel sorry for the person who now carried part of Boris around!

Get back to us when he donates a kidney. But only if it's one of his own and not provided by a conservative backer.

Dickens my post was objective. In what way did you think it wasn't please?

And Maddyone - I do hope you aren't implying I was judging Johnson's personal life.

As I said. I simply found the lack of contact in this situation "difficult to watch".

I agree with both of your posts Dickens and Joseanne. It’s really none of our business how BJ danced at his wedding/ anniversary reception and I think whoever filmed him and put it out on social media has acted in very bad form. Dislike of certain politicians, and BJ is one of them, but there are others, has lead to some extremely judgemental and unpleasant posts on social media, and I include Gransnet in that. It’s really not our business how many children a person in the public eye has got, nor is it our business where he does or doesn’t get his hair cut or how he combs it. Judgement should be reserved for what happens in a person’s public role, not his private life.

That's a very insightful post Dickens touching on the personal side of things.
When one has a position in the public eye that automatically brings criticism which is often cruel - like making fun of their weight, hair, lazy eye, big nose etc. Like unnecessary observations about the value of the house they live in or the car they drive. It then spills into their private life with more hostile comments about their sexual behaviour. It's no one else's business and it shouldn't really come as part of the job.
And it hurts other family members too. It isn't easy for any child to hear of their parents being harshly unfairly criticised by those who don't know much about the circumstances. I do have sympathy for anyone.

NotSpaghetti

Iam64

It’s all about him, though isn’t it. Yet another incident to confirm this

Yes Iam, definitely- and the "no-contact" with his wife and child was strangely difficult to watch - especially as a "first dance" As FannyCornforth, I too felt sorry for Carrie.

I don't think his dancing skills are what made this little video a strange and uncomfortable watch.

He's probably not a demonstrative man. Some men (and women) just aren't.

I'm not making any excuses for him, I cannot abide him - I find the less I know about his personal life, the better, because it seems to 'fit' with his self-serving political career - but I try to be objective, and I'm not sure he (or any other politician) should be under scrutiny in the private sphere of his / their life. Nor do I think he's obliged to tell us how many children he's fathered.

I'm sure Carrie knows her man - and he, her. So I don't feel in any way sorry for her. She, like the rest of us, made her choices. I'm also mindful of the fact that when there are children involved and we are speculating about a politician's private life, it may be uncomfortable or even painful some time in the future for them to read (if they do) some of the more hostile and harsh comments and observations about their parents that will remain on the 'net and could surface due to a simple bit of googling...

Looked like a dad at his daughters wedding.

Iam64

It’s all about him, though isn’t it. Yet another incident to confirm this

Yes Iam, definitely- and the "no-contact" with his wife and child was strangely difficult to watch - especially as a "first dance" As FannyCornforth, I too felt sorry for Carrie.

I don't think his dancing skills are what made this little video a strange and uncomfortable watch.

Prentice

Dickens

Glorianny

Not a Boris fan but really can't see why it matters where, or how, he dances

Me neither.

Remember the roasting Theresa May got for her effort, too?

I'm reminded of a retort that Angela Merkel made to a reporter who (rather rudely I thought) asked her whey she dressed so 'plainly' (or words to that effect). She replied, "I'm a politician, not a fashion model".

You get the drift.

Neither Johnson nor May should be expected to perform like professionals from Strictly. It's just unfortunate that sometimes they are faced with situations where they have to take part in such 'rituals' and I don't think it's fair to mock them for it.

Johnson is as Johnson does - same with May.

I do agree with you on this, whoever the politician it is their private life and if they enjoy a little clowning around or dad dancing at their own or another’s wedding reception then so what.I do Mum dancing or rather Grandma dancing every day around the kitchen to the radio.Friends and family see me do it, I don’t care at all. Am a large lady and it keeps me fit and I enjoy it.
I think a few replies to this matter are mean spirited really, but most are sensible comments thankfully.

I think the problem with TM was she tried to do it at a party conference. Big mistake!

Dickens

Glorianny

Not a Boris fan but really can't see why it matters where, or how, he dances

Me neither.

Remember the roasting Theresa May got for her effort, too?

I'm reminded of a retort that Angela Merkel made to a reporter who (rather rudely I thought) asked her whey she dressed so 'plainly' (or words to that effect). She replied, "I'm a politician, not a fashion model".

You get the drift.

Neither Johnson nor May should be expected to perform like professionals from Strictly. It's just unfortunate that sometimes they are faced with situations where they have to take part in such 'rituals' and I don't think it's fair to mock them for it.

Johnson is as Johnson does - same with May.

I do agree with you on this, whoever the politician it is their private life and if they enjoy a little clowning around or dad dancing at their own or another’s wedding reception then so what.I do Mum dancing or rather Grandma dancing every day around the kitchen to the radio.Friends and family see me do it, I don’t care at all. Am a large lady and it keeps me fit and I enjoy it.
I think a few replies to this matter are mean spirited really, but most are sensible comments thankfully.

Crikey, he sounds like a liability Dickens, but funny!

Joseanne

Didn't Prince William get criticised for his dad dancing too? It happens to them all.
Ed Balls really improved his footwork on Strictly!

... yes - William did!

I had a relative whose dancing style was a cross between 'The Twist' and the 'Cossack' improvised school of dance (regardless of what genre of music was being played). I've never seen anything like it. Thing is, just about every time he got to the 'Cossack' bit, he fell over whereupon he would get up and Twist-again-like-we-did-last-summer until he'd regained his equilibrium, and then repeat the cycle. Because he was so clumsy, no-one dared take to the dance-floor (or the living-room floor) and he took this as a sign that his moves were entertaining. Which they were, but not in the way he thought.

Dad-dancing by comparison is a work of art .

Didn't Prince William get criticised for his dad dancing too? It happens to them all.
Ed Balls really improved his footwork on Strictly!

Glorianny

Not a Boris fan but really can't see why it matters where, or how, he dances

Me neither.

Remember the roasting Theresa May got for her effort, too?

I'm reminded of a retort that Angela Merkel made to a reporter who (rather rudely I thought) asked her whey she dressed so 'plainly' (or words to that effect). She replied, "I'm a politician, not a fashion model".

You get the drift.

Neither Johnson nor May should be expected to perform like professionals from Strictly. It's just unfortunate that sometimes they are faced with situations where they have to take part in such 'rituals' and I don't think it's fair to mock them for it.

Johnson is as Johnson does - same with May.

Not a Boris fan but really can't see why it matters where, or how, he dances

Joseanne

Boris has lots of inadequacies, dancing being just one, and I wonder whether in order to cover them he plays the fool all the time? We can see that trait in children, (mainly boys?), and it often continues into adulthood because it kind of works for them.
Just wondering.

Yes, remember that saying "laughing a woman into bed"?

MissAdventure

I thought he might have picked up Wilf (?) and had a jiggle around.

I thought he was trying to make Wilf laugh.

Obviously Wilfred might have found it funny even if many on here don't!

I think it is a role he plays deliberately.
Lovable, cuddly old Boris.

Boris has lots of inadequacies, dancing being just one, and I wonder whether in order to cover them he plays the fool all the time? We can see that trait in children, (mainly boys?), and it often continues into adulthood because it kind of works for them.
Just wondering.

To be fair, although the second video gave me a little giggle, an awful lot of men (and women I guess) are not natural 'movers' on the dance floor, so there's no reason to think that Johnson has failed because he can't emulate Saturday-Night-Fever dance moves .

Personally, I shudder at wedding receptions when it's time to take to the dance floor. There's something toe-curlingly cringeworthy watching adults of various shapes and sizes imitating the moves of the type of dancing that really only works for young, svelte individuals. But it's become part of the wedding-reception ritual... I prefer a slow, sedate glide around the floor meself!

It’s all about him, though isn’t it. Yet another incident to confirm this

I thought he might have picked up Wilf (?) and had a jiggle around.