I cannot believe it!!

volver

I'm sorry Aveline. You have no idea.

Who do you think writes the emails? Do you think they emerge into being from nothing? And do you think that just getting a couple of emails will get organisations on board, that they will be immediately convinced of the worth of this law and will knock each other over in an attempt to get it working?

I see you assume that things will just be left out and that of course, they will get "nicked". Perhaps that is more indicative of your thoughts about your fellow human beings that about how the policy will work. Have a bit of vision. Try to see a better society. Oh, I forgot, that's not something many people here are up for, is it?

Whilst I agree with much of what you say, the knee jerk reactions, the ignorance, etc, I do think that in the past where organisations have left out courtesy products, eg. nappies, they have had to stop because they have been stolen. However, surely that is one of the things that a logistics person would be there to try to resolve regardless of whether they are male or female.

No words

Aveline

Emails? Letters? All sorts of ways to inform organisations that these things should be available. In fact most places already seem to have picked up on it.
Human nature being what it is I suspect items left out will be nicked and women will be back to having to ask for them from the nearest woman if they haven't already equipped themselves. Round and round we go.

Hi Aveline, what would people who nicked sanitary towels or tampons do with them, do you think? Keep them until they needed them, pass them to their friends and families maybe?

Is that not what they are for ie using?

If you can find sanitary products everywhere, they become commoditized and there is no point in stealing them because they are everywhere and they are free and everyone can have them.

Don't care as long as he does a good job

volver

If you can find sanitary products everywhere, they become commoditized and there is no point in stealing them ^because they are everywhere and they are free and everyone can have them.^

Exactly.

volver

If you can find sanitary products everywhere, they become commoditized and there is no point in stealing them ^because they are everywhere and they are free and everyone can have them.^

Have I missed something? Are they going to be free for everybody then? I thought it was in places like schools and colleges.

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volver

If you can find sanitary products everywhere, they become commoditized and there is no point in stealing them ^because they are everywhere and they are free and everyone can have them.^

Have I missed something? Are they going to be free for everybody then? I thought it was in places like schools and colleges.

Councils and education providers will be legally required to make period products available free of charge to anyone who needs them when the Period Products (Free Provision) (Scotland) Act comes into force tomorrow (Monday 15 August).

From the Scotgov website.

As ever, there are none so blind as those that will not see.

FarNorth

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An extract from the actual job description:

The Lead Officer will provide outstanding project leadership and management for a range of activities, events, and outcomes. This will include engaging with staff, partners, communities and young people in developing and delivering a campaign that stretches across our regions, raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act and the expanse of work happening in our respective communities.

The job is about the Act. Not about "getting off" on menstruating teenagers. It's about making the Act work successfully in the Tay Cities region. What a lot of fuss about nothing.

Aveline

As ever, there are none so blind as those that will not see.

What are you talking about?

Job description doesn't mention getting off on anything - that's all right then.

The point is, girls don't want to talk to a man about periods.
Girls (and women) have good reason for this.
They just don't want to.

I think a job share of one female and one male would be a better idea.
Every region in Scotland has to have one of these posts so we'll see what happens.

Girls don't have to talk to this man about their periods.

This man's a project manager.

But don't let the actual facts get in the way of hysteria and prejudice.

Have I missed something? Are they going to be free for everybody then? I thought it was in places like schools and colleges.

In my area they have been available in libraries and public toilets for about 3 years.
The dignity officer hopes to persuade businesses to provide them too, for staff and customers.

If I needed them because of poverty, tho, I'd be very tempted to take as many as I could when I saw them. Just in case they stopped being available.

This will include engaging with staff, partners, communities and young people

Couldn’t agree more, FarNorth - girls (most of them anyway) not wanting to talk to a man about periods.

I still cringe to think of a male friend of ours (no longer with us) who once had a friend plus her young daughter to stay. The woman made the mistake of telling our friend - who could often be extremely tactless - and I suspect it was sometimes on purpose - that her dd had just started her first period.

Male friend was stupid enough to mention it to the poor girl, who was utterly mortified.
And the idiot man (who told me about it afterwards) was ‘injured’ about it, and failed to understand why.

Before anyone says it, it’s not a case of being ashamed of a bodily function, more that it’s a very private thing. If I’d been that girl, I think I’d have been livid with my mother - who, thank goodness, would have had far more sense, being herself a very private person.

Publicity photo with young girl and lots of cheery red things, especially his shirt.
So sensitive.

FarNorth

*This will include engaging with staff, partners, communities and young people*

...about the implementation of the act. Not about their periods.

Im starting to find all this a bit ridiculous actually. I wish those complaining about it would find out what's going on and use a bit of sense, instead of jumping to conclusions that fit their world view.

Some of the threads on Mumsnet are bizarre.

FarNorth

Publicity photo with young girl and lots of cheery red things, especially his shirt.
So sensitive.

He wears red? Shocking.

This is a wind up now, isn't it?

If I needed them because of poverty, tho, I'd be very tempted to take as many as I could when I saw them. Just in case they stopped being available.

Fine, OK, take as many as you need.

That's the point, isn't it?

Perhaps the much-maligned post holder will work with organisations to find out the best way of managing supply to those who need it? Or perhaps we just shouldn't supply them at all because after all the whole system will just get exploited won't it?

Perhaps we should stop with the free prescriptions as well, and the free education, after all, people just take advantage, don't they? If there are problems with the provision of free period products, which as a reminder was voted through unanimously by the Scottish Government, perhaps we should employ someone with a some ideas about how to run the service. Maybe we could call that job the Period Dignity Officer?

Sheesh...

I'm with you, volver. Do you have your head banging thing handy? It would sum up how I feel, you too I think.

Welcome back GSM!

Thanks!

volver

FarNorth

Publicity photo with young girl and lots of cheery red things, especially his shirt.
So sensitive.

He wears red? Shocking.

This is a wind up now, isn't it?

Everyone knows that menstrual blood is blue. Haven't you seen the adverts?