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Aveline Tue 16-Aug-22 12:58:47

Scotland has just appointed the first 'period dignity officer'. A man.
That really does beggar belief. I'm with Martina on this.

Baggs Tue 16-Aug-22 19:18:35

Parsley3

I expect that he has been appointed because he has the necessary project management skills. It has nothing to do with the SNP government this time apart from their policy to provide free sanitary products. In my young day, I would have welcomed those little baskets of tampons and towels that I see in toilets these days. It is a good thing.

Well said. And well done ScotGov for having that policy.

Makes you wonder how poorer people managed in the past though. Perhaps some girls just missed a lot of school.

Summerlove Tue 16-Aug-22 18:53:58

FarNorth

From Twitter -
"How was that post only advertised for 10 days,inc two weekends,so 6 working days, and the man who got it already worked at that university?"

It's starting to look like other people didn't get a lot of chance to apply.

You think 10 days isn't enough time to apply?

Summerlove Tue 16-Aug-22 18:52:45

Germanshepherdsmum

At least Scotland is doing something about the scandal of period poverty - good for them. What difference does it make if the person in charge is male or female? I always had a rule of ‘best person for the job’ when making appointments and it never failed me.

You make a very good point here.

I was a bit taken aback at first, but I think you've summed up my thoughts far more succinctly than I could have.

Its nice to "See" you again.

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 18:51:41

The job description gives no information as to what knowledge and experience the successful candidate requires, simply a cliche-ridden list of abilities : energy, enthusiasm, excellent communication and IT skills, etc etc.

You might want to have a look at the actual job description in the link. Or are you one of the posters who said they don't follow links?

Also, can I just check? Are people outraged because they think its something to do with the SNP, or something to do with the patriarchy? Or is it both? What joy, so much to be angry about...

eazybee Tue 16-Aug-22 18:47:14

The job description gives no information as to what knowledge and experience the successful candidate requires, simply a cliche-ridden list of abilities : energy, enthusiasm, excellent communication and IT skills, etc etc. No mention of any medical knowledge or experience, or specific activities such as inspection visits to women's lavatories to check facilities, talking to young girls with no knowledge of menstruation, practical guidance in the use of products required? The post is dealing with people who menstruate so obviously the male sex has equal experience.

Apparently the Act deals with the provision of free sanitary products for those 'who need them;' free to all women or those in financial need, (how to be identified?). The post would require someone with great powers of persuasion, ie a salesman, because the institutions expected to make them available would also be expected to fund them.

It is the use of the term 'people who menstruate' angers me.

If you menstruate you are a woman because you have a womb.

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 18:47:03

Callistemon21

FarNorth

From Twitter -
"How was that post only advertised for 10 days,inc two weekends,so 6 working days, and the man who got it already worked at that university?"

It's starting to look like other people didn't get a lot of chance to apply.

Jobs for the boys, FarNorth!

I was a visiting lecturer at the institution in question.

Hint: It's not a university.

Not very well informed, these people, aren't they...? But very convinced that everything they believe is correct...

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 18:39:40

Callistemon21

volver

Vox pop on stv news just now, said "that should be a woman's job".

Welcome to the 19th century.

^SNP MP Ian Blackford said a woman would be better for the role^

You may need to sit down for this Callistemon.

Despite the fact that I am a Scot who supports independence, I sometimes don't agree with other Scots who support independence when it comes to matters totally unrelated to independence.

???‍♀️

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Aug-22 18:35:33

FarNorth

From Twitter -
"How was that post only advertised for 10 days,inc two weekends,so 6 working days, and the man who got it already worked at that university?"

It's starting to look like other people didn't get a lot of chance to apply.

Jobs for the boys, FarNorth!

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Aug-22 18:34:36

volver

Vox pop on stv news just now, said "that should be a woman's job".

Welcome to the 19th century.

SNP MP Ian Blackford said a woman would be better for the role

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 18:19:45

Vox pop on stv news just now, said "that should be a woman's job".

Welcome to the 19th century.

Grayling Tue 16-Aug-22 18:08:09

Thanks for your post Far North - it certainly sounds like "jobs for the boys". 9 days to sift through replies and carry out interviews and find the right candidate for the job sounds and is absolutely unbelievable even in this computerised age.

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Aug-22 18:06:36

AmberSpyglass

He’s very unlikely to be speaking to teenagers himself. He’ll be coordinating activities. I think it’s hugely important that more men are comfortable discussing periods.

Well, yes it is important. It shouldn't be a taboo subject.

But this doesn't mean that a man is the right person for this job.

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Aug-22 18:02:15

Aveline

It's not just the provision of period products. The job description goes way beyond that. Can you imagine how comfortable 13 year old girls will be speaking to him about periods? How likely is it that he'll be able to have a clue how they feel physically and mentally? How does having been a personal trainer equip him for discussions of menopause issues.
The only chip on my shoulder is the one of sheer commonsense. This is a daft appointment yet somehow not surprising these days. Sigh.

I just said much the same to DH.

Mr Grant is not a doctor or nurse practitioner then?

Sparklefizz Tue 16-Aug-22 18:00:30

eazybee

Why any country should need a 'Period Dignity Officer ' is beyond me.

Exactly my own opinion!

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Aug-22 17:58:43

This has been reported:

Jason Grant, from Dundee, will also discuss issues around the menopause as part of his role
SNP MP Ian Blackford said a woman would be better for the role

AmberSpyglass Tue 16-Aug-22 17:52:40

He’s very unlikely to be speaking to teenagers himself. He’ll be coordinating activities. I think it’s hugely important that more men are comfortable discussing periods.

Aveline Tue 16-Aug-22 17:48:49

It's not just the provision of period products. The job description goes way beyond that. Can you imagine how comfortable 13 year old girls will be speaking to him about periods? How likely is it that he'll be able to have a clue how they feel physically and mentally? How does having been a personal trainer equip him for discussions of menopause issues.
The only chip on my shoulder is the one of sheer commonsense. This is a daft appointment yet somehow not surprising these days. Sigh.

FarNorth Tue 16-Aug-22 17:48:02

From Twitter -
"How was that post only advertised for 10 days,inc two weekends,so 6 working days, and the man who got it already worked at that university?"

It's starting to look like other people didn't get a lot of chance to apply.

Baggytrazzas Tue 16-Aug-22 17:21:42

I must be really dim, what is all the fuss about here? Is it the provision of period products and the cost or the fact that a man has got this regional job that is the issue?

Grandmabatty Tue 16-Aug-22 17:21:37

Parsley hear hear

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 17:19:30

Aveline

Not wolves just women. What do we know though? Thank goodness we've got a man to explain everything.

Careful Aveline. That chip on your shoulder might cause you to lose your balance.

volver Tue 16-Aug-22 17:18:30

BlueBelle

Aunt to nephew and what job did you do when you left school James I became a “Period Dignity Officer” aunty

And is that meant to be derogatory? Is it meant to be beneath men to have such a job?

Just listen to yourselves.

PaperMonster Tue 16-Aug-22 17:14:42

Well, hopefully he’ll acknowledge that ‘people who menstruate’ are females. hmm

Granny23 Tue 16-Aug-22 17:01:38

I understand that the SG is giving some extra money to Health Boards/LAs to help them set up schemes. Publicly owned premises, eg health Centres, Sports Halls/pools, etc. will use their Council funding. Part of the job of the Officer will be persuading commercial premises and work places to routinely supply the sanitary supplies in their own toilets at their own (small in the scheme of things) expense.

BlueBelle Tue 16-Aug-22 16:57:08

Aunt to nephew and what job did you do when you left school James I became a “Period Dignity Officer” aunty