Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

hallgreenmiss

Anniebach

Some can’t tell the difference between bullying and criticism ,
no one here can bully a public figure unless they speak to them,

Is Johnson bullied or criticised on this forum ?

Was calling Prince Phillip- Phil The Greek, or referring to the
Queen as Lizzie bullying, criticism , mocking ?

Exactly!

Calling Philip 'Phil-The-Greek' is what I'd call a tad racist. Though he wasn't averse to making the odd comment in a similar vein himself. Still, two wrongs don't make a right.

But I've known the odd person or two who are great admirers of the Queen refer to her as "Lizzie" - as if she were an old friend, so not sure that's bullying or mocking, certainly not on their part anyway.

As for Boris Johnson - he should be held to account in the political arena, like any PM - depends how you do it though, and what you say. However, mocking him for his so-called 'dad-dancing', or the fact that he did or didn't put his arm round his wife, etc... or his appearance / weight, is definitely what I'd think of as bullying. But I might be in the minority.

Just too much attention seeking, no bullying at all.

This is a thread that is difficult to keep up with. You go away and another 30 posts have appeared!

Here's a lively headline. Nelson Mandela's grandson is not happy with Meghan's comments re the similarities between herself and his grandfather.

Well, I confess to calling the Queen 'Dizzie Miss Lizzy' on, I think, the Platinum Jubilee thread. I saw it on several banners on the Mall for the balcony appearance for, if my memory serves me right, the Silver Jubilee. It was predominantly the gay community of London that dubbed her that and it was a term of endearment and admiration. Given that the Queen has an excellent sense of humour, I am sure she loved the accolade. A bit of light entertainment in the midst of all the prim and proper stuff that goes with the position. Mea Culpa.
'Phil the Greek' and comments about Boris' appearance can be used to belittle and fall into a different category. As Dickens says, holding him to account politically is not in the same arena.

Enough is definitely enough! Every time I think this silly couple has at last gone quiet, up they pop again with some new ‘revelation’ about the RF (a favourite, lest we forget he, at least , is related to them), their philanthropy, her struggles with her mental health, her this, her that, oh and a bit about poor old ‘H’ as she calls him, just to remind us again of Who She Is. Wish this hypocritical and self absorbed pair would just go away and so no one could write about, or bully’ them ever again!

H&M made plans for there future with any consultation with the Queen and if they had come off a very lucrative lifestyle would have followed. Six Months in UK brushing up on being Royalty the other 6 months selling the fact on the American market. How many of Megan's celebrity friends cash in on their status advertising various products or just making appearances.

Netflix and Spotify deals look a bit thin and not what they were hoping for and living expenses much come as a shock.

Mortgage payments must have been a completely new concept to Harry, also insuring cars, employing security guards. Has he ever employed any staff (housekeeper, cook, gardeners, pool boy, nannies). The rumour that they would like to return to the UK and and help out with royal duties and live off the British Tax Payer must look very attractive.

Agree. Wish they would just bore off TBH. Also wish the media would just totally ignore them. Stop reporting and taking photos of their inane lives and spoutings. Give them the anonymity they apparently crave. Win/win result

merlotgran

Sawsage2

They make millions from Netflix (she had a microphone under the large collar of her coat at church)

How the heck do you know that? ??

This is one of the widely spread rumours about them on social media. There is no proof. Some of the other rumours are much worse than that. They question her pregnancy, if she really gave birth or used a surrogate and loads of other tosh. If you think GN is bad have a look at some of the things said about her. I don't wonder they keep releasing publicity anything to counter the out and out lies I would imagine.

StoneofDestiny

Let's have a Republic and get rid of the lots of them to live private lives and to argue with each other to their hearts Co rent.
Meanwhile - as far as I can see they are all using the press for publicity - can't open a newspaper or magazine without Edward and Sophie being shoved in our faces as 'hardworking'. After Saint Sophie tried to sell off access to the monarchy for cash, They sloped off to live in a mansion kept up by unearned wealth - they have genuinely no idea what 'hardworking' means.
Andrew - no need to comment - what a Prince!
Charles, what a layabout. Still serving an apprenticeship close to his 80's.
Philip - his 'job' was to support his wife? Seriously. Now Kates 'job' is to support her husband! Never was there more well paid jobs on Earth than just being married to a Royal!
William - moving to his 40's and doing the same apprenticeship as his dad! Idle beyond belief, yet has the best of everything.

We lose nothing if we lose them all. Absolutely nothing has changed since the death of Philip or Diana - pomp and ceremony is all that is left!

Meghan - at least she had a career based her own merit. She is more articulate than the Eton and Public School educated Royals. She is definitely being harangued by the British Press - why are they not turning that glare on the idle shower sitting on their royal backsides in the UK and drilling down into how our police service are being dragged into covering up shady goings on (Pizza Gate - Anderw would have had a police escort if he had been there at all!, given he has been insisting on one all his life).

Agree Well Said.
Monarchy serves politicians and Royals not the people.

Meghan seems to imagine that she has had a vast influence on the dynamic of the royal family. I wonder why? She is such a minor and unimportant player in the fabric of our rich history - I guess social media has given her a platform for her somewhat shallow thoughts - probably not her fault, as Americans have often envied our long historical background. Therefore what appears as arrogance is more likely to be ignorance. Harry is a decent guy- popular, appealing and a good communicator- however, like his uncle Andrew, not blessed with much in the way of brains and displays a sense of entitlement showing a distinct lack of perception.

Glorianny There may be a lot of nonsense and lies written in the media about Meghan but she does court media attention by her own behaviour, comments and lies.

I haven't ploughed through all 14 pages of Gransnet responses on this so forgive me if I've duplicated anything. This is how I see the reason for the Sussexes return to Blighty. Prince Harry once again wants (and I quote) 'to ensure that his Grandmother has the right people around her and is being looked after by the right people' or some such nonsense he came out with at his earlier fleeting visit. I would hazard a guess that he is trying to keep the lines of communication open and friendlyish as he (and more likely her) want to make sure he is still in her will. Meghan has had the whiff of money and will cunningly ensure he (and by association she) don't miss out. I hope the Queen has altered her will to reflect their unkind and hurtful behaviour. He who laughs last and all that......

Not sure how Meghan telling lies will counter the out and out lies in the media Glorianny.

Good that Mandelas grandson spoke out, what on earth is going on? It’s insulting to what he and his fellow men suffered. I ploughed through his book, what a clever man, I got lost with all the names and lawsuits, yet he remembered everything.
What he did will go down in history. I went to the prison where he was held in isolation and I hold him in high esteem. For her to remotely associate with him is ridiculous.

Yes it really is boring, and why do so many people read or listen to any thing she says or performs about?

As the saying goes "They made their bed so let them get on with lying on it"

Need I say more?

This is how I see the reason for the Sussexes return to Blighty....

And so it continues.

Speculation, assumptions, rumour, gossip. Keeping it all live for the foreseeable future.

Sun's come out, garden needs watering. Have a pleasant evening, all.

This thread is even more entertaining than the Sunday Mumsnet one.

Ignore Winge and Ginge there is a limit to their made up stories.

If they respect the queen why on earth did they behave the way they did when her husband was dying ? Beyond me.

They both court the limelight. I do not think they are bullied, in fact Megan was actually investigated for bullying royal staff. Considering they wanted privacy they are never out of the media. Sick of them both. Obnoxious pair.

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

I think that picture is pretty great. It takes guts to have your hair slicked down, wear a black sweater and stare straight at the camera. She has great bone structure. I don't think she looks scary. I think she looks challenging. But god forbid women should do anything but smile at the camera and look happy. People might start to think of them as competent, clever human beings, and then where would we be.

So, if you smile, does that mean you're neither clever nor competent?

Oh dear ?

Practising
???????? Oops!

Of course not. But if you smile because someone tells you to, or it is expected, what else are you doing but fulfilling the role assigned to women of always being accommodating and happy? A lot of posts on this thread demonstrate how a woman who doesn't smile is regarded.

accommodating adj
"willing to fit in with someone's wishes or needs"

Whenever has a happy smile meant that someone is pliable and a doormat?
It usually means just that, someone is happy and confident.

And whenever has a mean look meant that someone is strong?
It usually means someone is angry, miserable and unhappy, not strength of character.

It's interesting to see the dichotomy of opinion between posters, though.

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

I think that picture is pretty great. It takes guts to have your hair slicked down, wear a black sweater and stare straight at the camera. She has great bone structure. I don't think she looks scary. I think she looks challenging. But god forbid women should do anything but smile at the camera and look happy. People might start to think of them as competent, clever human beings, and then where would we be.

So, if you smile, does that mean you're neither clever nor competent?

Oh dear ?

Practising
???????? Oops!

Of course not. But if you smile because someone tells you to, or it is expected, what else are you doing but fulfilling the role assigned to women of always being accommodating and happy? A lot of posts on this thread demonstrate how a woman who doesn't smile is regarded.

accommodating adj
"willing to fit in with someone's wishes or needs"

Whenever has a happy smile meant that someone is pliable and a doormat?
It usually means just that, someone is happy and confident.

And whenever has a mean look meant that someone is strong?
It usually means someone is angry, miserable and unhappy, not strength of character.

It's interesting to see the dichotomy of opinion between posters, though.

You see I don't think she looks mean- there is a difference between challenging and mean.

Dolly Parton smiles and giggles a lot ?
There’s very few women who were as powerful as her in the music industry.

I love this post on MN
Meghan to Serena Williams Enough about me, what about you. What do you think about me

Theoddbird

I have read so much nastiness on various posts on gransnet over the past year or two about Harry and Meghan. It can all be considered bullying. Maybe some of you should think before you type....

Didn't you know? Its not bullying as they will never read it.

That's what I have learned on these threads.