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Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

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Sago Fri 26-Aug-22 13:11:11

I don’t read the articles but see the headlines, the poor couple must be seriously damaged by the constant attention and criticism they are receiving.

I’m not a fan but enough is enough surely!

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 00:57:30

I should say publicly marking her death.

Summerlove Thu 01-Sept-22 01:45:05

imaround

The New York post is considered a rag magazine. I would liken it to the tabloids in the UK. We in the US do not take their journalism seriously.

Not sure on her popularity in the US. I rarely speak of her in my circles to be honest. No one I know is gushing. One thing is certain we could care less if she is royal or not. We had a tea party years ago what started us down a path of no Monarchy.

Can I ask a serious question though? If the Royal family is not marking Diana's death and William and Harry are not marking her death, why is the timing of her podcast such an affront?

She did not pick the release date for her podcast. Spotify gets to do all that. It is very likely that Spotify did so because it coincides with Diana's death, but no one really knows for sure.

because….reasons. ??‍♀️

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:24:43

The best one the make, IMO Dickens, is the red velvet. They also make seasonal ones. The often have lemon in the summer that I love.

Problem is that I have no self control so I will eat the mini bundtlet in one sitting. blush

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:28:24

Dang it, I just looked at the flavors and they have lemon raspberry right now.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:50:36

The rain cleared out and I took my walk and listened to this weeks episode. It was really good! Better than last week. I highly recommend listening to it.

They spoke of growing up mixed race in the US and how the word DIVA had changed from meaning a goddess like soprano to, mid century, it changing to a negative connotation regarding women.

During the interview itself she mentioned herself twice. Once she mentioned her dress covered in dog hair and twice about growing up identifying as mixed race and then having to identify as a black woman when she married Harry.

I understand it because there is a problem in the US where mixed race people are not accepted by either the white or black communities.

She did have a monologue at the end, but that is normal in a podcast and Mariah Carey was long gone.

Next week is Mindy Kaling, another guest I am excited about. She lives life on her own terms and does not apologize for anything.

BlueBalou Thu 01-Sept-22 06:48:38

icanhandthemback

BlueBalou

Apparently Meghan has given an interview stating it ‘…takes a lot to forgive…’
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62717696
I’m afraid that for me it doesn’t come across well but I can’t put my finger on why.
I think she’s disingenuous.

You left out the, "The duchess responded: "I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive." Do you not think that you might make you look disingenuous too?

Absolutely not disingenuous on my part, I was directly quoting from the article in the Telegraph.
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Elegran Thu 01-Sept-22 08:23:50

Chestnut

And all this poop hitting the fan on the 25th anniversary of Diana's death, when I'm sure Harry (and the rest of us) would rather remember in a quiet and reflective way. But no, Meghan has to compete with Diana for the headlines, even today. Her timing is always precise, and intended to knock the royals off the front page. It happens every time.

I think the first sentence of Chestnut's post is the answer to your serious question, imaround. Diana's death, and the pain it caused in her family (yes, to all of them, despite the wild conspiracy theories) should not be used as a trigger for Meghan's PR staff to make a marketing move.

Elegran Thu 01-Sept-22 08:25:03

Life is not a stage for personality duels.

tickingbird Thu 01-Sept-22 08:49:54

Meghan is not being bullied. However, she, herself, is a bully. She has a history of bullying and treating people badly. This goes back way before she married Harry.

As someone who was mildly pro H & M I’ve definitely moved into the anti camp. Personally, I have a pretty low opinion of this proven liar and if I wish to say so I will. It’s not bullying, it’s not racism it’s my view; much the same as the views openly expressed about Boris and anyone else in the public eye.

annsixty Thu 01-Sept-22 09:05:20

A friend of mine ,now dead, and I, had a phrase for people who we considered behaved like a bully or came across as overstepping the mark..
I am so pleased she isn’t my DiL/ Dd’s MiL.
I am so pleased MM isn’t my DiL.

icanhandthemback Thu 01-Sept-22 10:02:29

BlueBalou

icanhandthemback

BlueBalou

Apparently Meghan has given an interview stating it ‘…takes a lot to forgive…’
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62717696
I’m afraid that for me it doesn’t come across well but I can’t put my finger on why.
I think she’s disingenuous.

You left out the, "The duchess responded: "I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive." Do you not think that you might make you look disingenuous too?

Absolutely not disingenuous on my part, I was directly quoting from the article in the Telegraph.
??

And yet, the link you quoted was from the BBC and followed up with the lines I quoted. You were selective in what you quoted to make MM look bad and that is exactly what the press do. I don't for one minute think she is an angel but balance is important otherwise you are quoting out of context.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Sept-22 10:48:02

Dickens

imaround

She uses words that mean nothing to those in the UK. Here in the US, we understand exactly what she means. Which is good since her podcast and article are released in the US on US platforms for US audiences.

shock

I've heard the word "optics" used here in the UK during business meetings, and in presentations, on more than one occasion.

I can't believe no one else has!

In microscopy?

But as a business term, no.

hollysteers Thu 01-Sept-22 12:49:04

I’m no fan of Meghan, but I believe the suggestions that all her publicity ventures are timed to coincidence with royal events here is far fetched.
Machiavellian she may be, but she cannot be sure of all of the release dates of royal events here and I just think she wants constant exposure rather than planned coincidental timings.

hollysteers Thu 01-Sept-22 12:49:51

To coincide with ?

merlotgran Thu 01-Sept-22 13:02:32

hollysteers

I’m no fan of Meghan, but I believe the suggestions that all her publicity ventures are timed to coincidence with royal events here is far fetched.
Machiavellian she may be, but she cannot be sure of all of the release dates of royal events here and I just think she wants constant exposure rather than planned coincidental timings.

The royal diary is finalised months in advance and some of them are foregone conclusions.

Meghan knows exactly what she is doing.

Namsnanny Thu 01-Sept-22 13:13:10

Meghan knows exactly what she is doing
Precisely Merlotgran

NotSpaghetti Thu 01-Sept-22 13:24:30

Callistemon21 - I have heard "optics" used here in the UK
Usually "the optics aren't good" where something comes across as something more negative than it really is. So, fir example, if someone has been talking about leaving a job and then just happened to put notice in as a crisis or something negative about the company transpired the two things would be linked in people's eyes and in the media.
I have heard this in the charity sector and (I think) in local government circles.
I think it's not that unusual to be honest.

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Sept-22 13:26:31

How could she not have known the date of the 25th anniversary of Diana's death?

Galaxy Thu 01-Sept-22 13:34:18

Yes I am in both the charity and local government sector and I have heard it a fair bit.

Glorianny Thu 01-Sept-22 13:40:53

The podcast was released on Tuesday 23rd. Diana died on 31st. How on earth does that make it the anniversary??

Summerlove Thu 01-Sept-22 13:51:28

The royal diary is finalised months in advance and some of them are foregone conclusions.

You think people still give her a copy??

Summerlove Thu 01-Sept-22 13:52:58

Glorianny

The podcast was released on Tuesday 23rd. Diana died on 31st. How on earth does that make it the anniversary??

Because it was the same month.

Obviously wink

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Sept-22 13:54:08

I was referring to the Cut magazine article that was published on the 29th, 2 days before the 25th anniversary of Diana's death.

eazybee Thu 01-Sept-22 14:09:45

There have been low-key articles in the press about Diana for the past two weeks; the release of the podcast was to ensure discussions would be current and coincide with the time of the anniversary.
In response to Meghan's comment: "I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive." this surely reflects on her attitude towards her father and family. But I haven't heard the podcast so I am only aware of what has been quoted on here.
I expect Harry is familiar with the royal engagements in Britain as he still occasionally attends some functions.

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 14:32:45

Perhaps Harry hasn’t told her when his mother died ! ! ! !