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vampirequeen Fri 26-Aug-22 18:03:01

Apologies to all the nice ladies called Karen but today we met a 'Karen'.

We went to a lunchtime concert at Beverley Minster. It was the Berkshire Youth Symphony Orchestra and, if you ever get the chance, I can heartily recommend you go to see them.

DH was using his phone to record some of the music to send to a friend in South Africa who loves classical music. He wasn't the only person recording but Karen seemed to take offence to him alone. Half way through the concert she stormed up behind him and shouted (over the music) that he had ruined the concert for her because she couldn't see when he was recording. Now the layout was such that, unless you were on the first row, you wouldn't be able to see the orchestra anyway but apparently her lack of view was DH's fault. He hadn't done anything to affect her hearing of the music. After she shouted, and without giving him chance to reply, she stormed off and left the Minster. We, and people around us, burst out laughing.

The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position. Then she wouldn't have had to storm out and miss the second half of what was an incredibly good concert.

merlotgran Sun 28-Aug-22 09:08:21

NotAGran55

Well GNHQ obviously don’t think that the disgraceful use of the lovely name in this way is wrong do they, or the thread would have been pulled from the outset.

Appalling moderation.

Surely this thread hasn’t been reported? ?

Enid101 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:04:33

Vintagejazz

Yes but everyone chanting the same criticism over and over is unnecessary and smacks of ganging up. Just because you're 'entitled ' to express your opinion doesn't mean it's always kind to do so.

This!

MawtheMerrier Sun 28-Aug-22 08:57:13

I don’t think it is ganging up at all. Each Karen who has suffered this sort of verbal abuse has a perfect right to point out how hurtful it is - and that those who perpetuate it need to be aware and just stop
Even a sincere apology or retraction would have helped.
So no, as long as it goes on, it is not a “dead horse”. Verbal abuse needs calling out each and every time.

Vintagejazz Sun 28-Aug-22 08:48:36

Yes but everyone chanting the same criticism over and over is unnecessary and smacks of ganging up. Just because you're 'entitled ' to express your opinion doesn't mean it's always kind to do so.

Joane123 Sun 28-Aug-22 08:37:32

Not really. Everyone has an opinion, and each of those opinions is valid and everyone is entitled to express them.

Vintagejazz Sun 28-Aug-22 08:23:38

I'm sure the OP has got the message now. Going on and on at her is just bullying and ganging up.

NotAGran55 Sun 28-Aug-22 08:19:15

Well GNHQ obviously don’t think that the disgraceful use of the lovely name in this way is wrong do they, or the thread would have been pulled from the outset.

Appalling moderation.

FannyCornforth Sun 28-Aug-22 03:47:00

Up until really quite recently, I thought that the expression, ‘flogging a dead horse’ meant that you were trying to sell the deceased equine

VioletSky Sun 28-Aug-22 01:24:31

? Not a mob member

Chewbacca Sun 28-Aug-22 00:14:54

The thread police Maw!

rafichagran Sun 28-Aug-22 00:14:25

VioletSky

Her

?

Yes who?

MawtheMerrier Sun 28-Aug-22 00:06:11

VioletSky

Her

?

Who?

VioletSky Sat 27-Aug-22 23:43:09

Her

?

Callistemon21 Sat 27-Aug-22 23:37:51

Says whom?

VioletSky Sat 27-Aug-22 23:27:59

The horse isn't moving... maybe it's time fo stop flogging it?

MawtheMerrier Sat 27-Aug-22 22:15:48

Maybe a taste of how incredibly hurtful it is to be ridiculed and disrespected because of one’s name.

Iam64 Sat 27-Aug-22 20:36:50

Callistemon21

Oh dear, vampirequeen, it was lovely to see you back on GN but you seem to have touched a nerve with many of us.

Don't disappear again though.

Thanks Callistemon / hope you don’t feel too battened by the comments vampire

Fleurpepper Sat 27-Aug-22 20:09:13

As an aside, it is so annoying when going to a good restaurant to have everyone taking photos of their food from every angle- standing up even, and walking around the table for best light.

Or is it just me?

Sandytoes Sat 27-Aug-22 20:04:21

I stopped being interested in if your DH was acting reasonably or not after you had used the name " Karen " to describe the woman in your post . It is incredibly rude and insulting to people with that name .

Callistemon21 Sat 27-Aug-22 17:57:23

Oh dear, vampirequeen, it was lovely to see you back on GN but you seem to have touched a nerve with many of us.

Don't disappear again though.

Jaberwok Sat 27-Aug-22 17:55:26

I too have a lovely cousin-in-law called Karen, and like others I bristle at the name being used in a derogatory way. As for recording a concert? I suppose people should check first to see if this is allowed and if so, avoid going as inevitably this will be distracting, I know I would. Tbh I'm amazed it was allowed as anywhere we've been including our local Abbey, it most certainly is not and you would be asked to leave immediately if an attempt was made.

Chewbacca Sat 27-Aug-22 17:30:11

“Wally” caused one of my relatives a deal of misery.

My old school friend was called Gay; she changed her name by deed poll in the 1970s. Shame because her name was lovely and it suited her.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 27-Aug-22 15:37:23

Really hate the use of calling people Karen and I would also have been annoyed. Sorry

Parsley3 Sat 27-Aug-22 15:28:11

I hope that all those people who were recording the concert turned off the volume on the mobile phone in case it started ringing .

nandad Sat 27-Aug-22 14:23:17

BlueBelle exactly! I think OP realised how this was going down and had to tweak the story.