My first Karen

Most places have an absolute ban on people recording concerts like that, do they not? I can understand what you're saying, but it is a bit of a pet hate of mine too.

Her loss, what a twerp.

I didn't think you were allowed to record live performances without permission. Copyright?

She was a twit that cut off her nose to spite her face. I'm just sad that the lovely name "Karen" has been hijacked to describe a selfish, white, middle aged woman.

Was she actually called Karen? If not why label everyone with that unfortunate name as a difficult person?

Why Karen? Another ridiculous American import.

The woman in question may have had someone playing in the youth orchestra and wanted to watch that person. Who knows.
As far as I know recording concerts etc is not allowed.

I expect poor Karen had reached the end of her tether. She had expected to relax at a lovely concert but even that was spoilt for her. I thought we were supposed to be better at understanding ‘mental health issues’ not finding them funny like the bad old days.

Who said anything about mental health issues? For the record, I have MH issues so suggesting I don't understand them is way off the mark.

Recording was allowed and, as I said, no one other than those in the front row could actually see the orchestra. DH was one of at least a dozen people recording and he didn't do it all the time. Some people actually stood up to record. DH remained seated at all times.

For some reason this lady took a huff and, rather than approach DH in a reasonable manner, she decided to shout at him then storm out of the building without giving him the opportunity to resolve the situation. She didn't shout at anyone else even though the people in front of us were also recording. She just chose to shout at DH.

If you were truly “sorry” you would not perpetuate this use of the term “Karen” with the aim of abusing women called Karen everywhere.
My RL name is Karen. My late parents chose it and you insult both me and their memory by using it as a term of abuse.

This woman’s behaviour may have been out of order, but did you in fact have permission to record in the Minster?
In most venues the audience are asked specifically not to record or take photographs.
OK you have made me angry from your thread title and opening sentence but should I refer to people who annoy me in future as Vintagequeens or Kings ?

Oops sorry Vampirequeens/Kings

You can call them whatever you like. I won't be offended if you use my name.

I've already said that permission was granted to record.

What you do in your private life is your business, I would prefer you it if you stopped abusing me and any other Karens (I know at least one) on this site.

Forlornhope

I expect poor Karen had reached the end of her tether. She had expected to relax at a lovely concert but even that was spoilt for her. I thought we were supposed to be better at understanding ‘mental health issues’ not finding them funny like the bad old days.

Why does everything have to be a mental health issue ? I’m all for better understanding of real mental health problems, and they are anything but funny. But that doesn’t mean we have to put up with entitled people ranting at us for all manner of reasons. The OP said that the orchestra couldn’t be seen if you weren’t in the front row, so what’s the problem ?

There's nothing worse than enjoying a concert or theatre or musical production and some idiot in front ,or 2 or 3 rows in front constantly hold their phone out recording , especially if you've paid quite an amount for the tickets .

If it wasn’t annoying her then why would she leave after having paid and travelled to an event. Maybe she was annoyed at all the people recording, some standing, and took it out on your husband.

OP, if it wasn’t possible for anyone to see the orchestra why did your husband need to hold the phone up in her eye-line?
Why not leave it on his lap?

I’m just surprised that recording was allowed. Why not just sit back and enjoy the concert? The objector does sound rather hysterical. And I would never refer to anyone as a “Karen”. A ridiculous and offensive US import.

The concert was free. Recording was allowed. DH wasn't holding his phone out or up as he was only recording the sound.

NanaAng14

There's nothing worse than enjoying a concert or theatre or musical production and some idiot in front ,or 2 or 3 rows in front constantly hold their phone out recording , especially if you've paid quite an amount for the tickets .

Agreed. Did he actually stand to do so?

I don’t understand why people have to bring the name Karen into anything! Very disrespectful to all the people out there with this name, and by the way my name isn’t Karen! We have a Karen in our extended family who is sick to the back teeth of having her name ridiculed so immature

He was seated throughout and wasn't holding his phone up or out.

Sorry vampire queen but I feel she was justified in her outburst. I understand you our DH wanting to record such a wonderful concert so he could send to his friend in South Africa. He may well have moved to another position if she had said his phone was in her eye line ..... however that action would have out his phone in someone else's eyeline!
I fail to understand why people are incapable of attending a lovely concert without recording or taking pictures. Why not just sit , listen and appreciate?
The fault may lie in the organizers allowing people to record, the angry lady was understandably annoyed at the amount of distraction caused by phones recording and your DH was in the firing line. If I attend such a concert I expect to relax , listen and enjoy and not be distracted by people raising their phones !!!! The fact the lady would not be able to see anyway is beside the point . She wanted to listen in a serene environment and I don't blame her. Sorry but have little sympathy for you .

What is wrong with being called Karen!?

Can I suggest that next time, you just take a picture for the memory?

Last time we went to an event, most of the crowd was just recording on their phones while looking at the phone to ensure they got food footage.

I couldn't be doing with all that arm ache and watching it on my phone when I was actually there in person.

Most things you can find a professional recording of at some point in the future anyway.