My first Karen

We don’t have that Karen thing here. I actually think it is extremely rude and judgemental and I hope it never, ever comes here. If we recorded a concert on a phone we would get dropped on from a great height and probably asked to leave because of copyright issues. I am sure people do it but it is illegal .

If you’re using your phone you must know it’ll be in somebody’s eye even if it’s that annoying light in the corner of your eye. You get that in cinemas and theatres a lot.

People think that because they’ve got it in their lap it’s not affecting anyone but it is.

MawtheMerrier

What you do in your private life is your business, I would prefer you it if you stopped abusing me and any other Karens (I know at least one) on this site.

This. My lovely niece is Karen and sick of the non-joke

For what it’s worth, I believe mobile phones should be switched off during any performance, especially a live one

Nandad well it wasn’t in his lap in the original story it was in her eyeline

I’m confused. I can understand that if she was sitting directly behind or within a couple of rows of you the light from the phone will have been distracting but if it was on his lap how could she see it? If she stormed up behind him that suggests she was sitting a little further away, again how would she have seen it if it was on his lap?

varian

Was she actually called Karen? If not why label everyone with that unfortunate name as a difficult person?

Yes I wondered this too. The whole story could have been told and opinions given without the need to use the term 'Karen'.

It’s amazing how really decent people, who would condemn any other form of bullying without hesitation, will latch on to name-calling and not realise what it is and how hurtful it can be.

“Wally” caused one of my relatives a deal of misery.

You lost me with your disrespectful thread title by perpetuating this insulting Americanism of any woman named Karen. My family member and two close friends do not deserve having their name used as a slur or worse as experienced by Ladyf!

I feel for anyone to use a mobile phone during a classical concert, simply, bad manners and would spoil the event for me also.

I too rile against the use of the name Karen as a pejorative short hand term.

That's true Baggs. Maybe she goes in for shouting at public venues. There might be a film play about her misadventures.

Caleo

A concert is enjoyed partly because of audience participation in the occasion. It's bad manners to make a spectacle of yourself with a mobile phone camera while the concert is in progress .

And even worse manners to shout at another audience member during the performance.

MrB and I are going to be in Beverley towards the end of September, vamp. Do you know of any events (especially musical in a classic style) about then? I'd love to be able to fit one in during our visit.

A concert is enjoyed partly because of audience participation in the occasion. It's bad manners to make a spectacle of yourself with a mobile phone camera while the concert is in progress .

kittylester

Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.

Absolutely

People with their bloody phones everywhere annoy me too. But its not a new thing. Before that it was video and cine cameras. I can recall being on a holiday in the far east many years ago and one chap (who had a cine camera) thought he should always have the front seat in the car/jeep/boat so he could record. So we were all supposed to kowtow to him because he had an expensive camera? Yeah, right.

kittylester

Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.

Hear hear ?
I thought that we were over this pathetic and ignorant ‘Karen’ nonsense ?
Just stop it now

I’m sure, not too long into the future, your friend in SouthAfrica will be able to see it on YouTube . Hope he does, Good luck !

Perhaps she found it distracting and wondered what he was doing

There’s a bit of backtracking going on here. First, if he had known the phone was in her eyeline he would have positioned it differently, then the phone was in his lap and he was just moving his thumb. Which is it? Somebody isn’t getting the replies they expected. ?

What an awful thing to say. I like the name Karen and I would certainly not have enjoyed the concert with someone recording it near me with their phone. Rude and disrespectful.

I really do think mobile phones should not be allowed at concerts, shows or similar indoor events. Its very annoying to be sitting watching a lot of people taking photos, recording or even texting during a show It must also be annoying for the entertainers.

My sympathies lie entirely with the woman who in my opinion was perfectly justified in complaining.

Why do people go to shows and concerts and then spend the entire time recording it on phones held aloft?
No wonder others get cross.

Just turn the blasted thing off, sit back quietly and enjoy the show.

Another example of entitlement.

^ The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position.^

That doesn't sound as though it was on his lap, it sounds like it could have been in her eyeline or why would need to apologise and move to another position.

vampirequeen

He didn't have the phone lifted. It couldn't have been in her eyeline unless she was looking at his lap. He wasn't making any sound. He simply pressed the record button as the piece started and pressed it again to stop the recording. He didn't even move anything other than his thumb.

As she stormed up behind him was she holding a periscope?

I too can’t bear the use of the word Karen used in a derogatory way if your husband only had his phone in his lap and no one could see it how did this lady know he was recording ?
No one should record during a show and most places are very hot on not allowing it
I think your husband was in the wrong and I think you are also in the wrong in your use of the nance
I m not called Karen but I m cross for all the Karens in the world