Gransnet forums

Chat

My first Karen

(167 Posts)
vampirequeen Fri 26-Aug-22 18:03:01

Apologies to all the nice ladies called Karen but today we met a 'Karen'.

We went to a lunchtime concert at Beverley Minster. It was the Berkshire Youth Symphony Orchestra and, if you ever get the chance, I can heartily recommend you go to see them.

DH was using his phone to record some of the music to send to a friend in South Africa who loves classical music. He wasn't the only person recording but Karen seemed to take offence to him alone. Half way through the concert she stormed up behind him and shouted (over the music) that he had ruined the concert for her because she couldn't see when he was recording. Now the layout was such that, unless you were on the first row, you wouldn't be able to see the orchestra anyway but apparently her lack of view was DH's fault. He hadn't done anything to affect her hearing of the music. After she shouted, and without giving him chance to reply, she stormed off and left the Minster. We, and people around us, burst out laughing.

The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position. Then she wouldn't have had to storm out and miss the second half of what was an incredibly good concert.

Namsnanny Mon 29-Aug-22 19:44:08

That's a shame hollysteers

hollysteers Mon 29-Aug-22 14:22:22

It’s unusual for recording to be allowed for a classical concert.
Usually an announcement is made at the beginning to turn all phones off.
Re the name Karen, I received a birthday card from my brother in law and his wife. She is called Karen, but had given herself a new name I didn’t recognise.
Obviously fed up with the connotations.

Iam64 Mon 29-Aug-22 13:51:47

I saw him at the Manchester concert in the 60’s then at Woodstock/uk . He was good. I wouldn’t go now but have a great time maggie

Maggiemaybe Mon 29-Aug-22 13:44:06

I’ll let you know how it goes, Doodle.

Maggiemaybe Mon 29-Aug-22 13:43:00

? Yes, I’ve heard he can be a bit hit and miss performing live (DH saw him in his heyday and says he always was).

We’re hoping to catch him on a good day.

Namsnanny Mon 29-Aug-22 11:39:11

Maggiemaybe

We’re off to see Bob Dylan later this year. Apparently he doesn’t want anyone using mobiles in any way during his performances, so ours will be placed in some sort of lockable pouch throughout. I’m intrigued to see how this will work, but am more than happy to know that we won’t be distracted.

Now if Bob could just insist on nobody doing the bar/toilet/bar/toilet shuffle during the gig….

Enjoy the concertMaggieMaybe although if he sings the way he did at the last outing I saw, you'd be hard pressed to record anything but mumbling!?
Not a criticism, just a jokey observation.

Farmor15 Mon 29-Aug-22 11:32:09

Another vote for Yammy's post!

Spinnaker Mon 29-Aug-22 10:21:04

Yammy

Bad manners all around.
A concert is to listen to or watch not photograph and very distracting so you and your DH were at fault.
Bad manners from the woman she should have quietly approached someone in charge and asked your DH and anyone else using a phone to switch off.
Bad manners from her getting up and making an exhibition of herself.
A double whammy from you calling her a Karen.
So you are not exactly innocent, are you? Yet you are wanting backing for your actions maybe you feel slightly shame-faced?
Bad manners from the rest of the audience and yourselves laughing at her.sad

Excellent post Yammy

Yammy Mon 29-Aug-22 09:25:49

Bad manners all around.
A concert is to listen to or watch not photograph and very distracting so you and your DH were at fault.
Bad manners from the woman she should have quietly approached someone in charge and asked your DH and anyone else using a phone to switch off.
Bad manners from her getting up and making an exhibition of herself.
A double whammy from you calling her a Karen.
So you are not exactly innocent, are you? Yet you are wanting backing for your actions maybe you feel slightly shame-faced?
Bad manners from the rest of the audience and yourselves laughing at her.sad

Doodledog Mon 29-Aug-22 09:03:29

Enjoy Bob Dylan! Do report back on what he was like? Mr Dog and I are great fans.

Maggiemaybe Mon 29-Aug-22 08:55:28

We’re off to see Bob Dylan later this year. Apparently he doesn’t want anyone using mobiles in any way during his performances, so ours will be placed in some sort of lockable pouch throughout. I’m intrigued to see how this will work, but am more than happy to know that we won’t be distracted.

Now if Bob could just insist on nobody doing the bar/toilet/bar/toilet shuffle during the gig….

Ashcombe Mon 29-Aug-22 08:20:09

I agree, dragonfly46. It seems to be an increasingly common phenomenon. A few years ago, the person in front of me at an amateur performance of a musical whooped whenever her friend appeared then filmed that scene. I was delighted when the usher had a quiet word with the woman!

dragonfly46 Mon 29-Aug-22 08:14:56

No actually Spice I have not used any of the terms you mention and nor would I use Karen. It is a very pretty name which has become maligned.
On another note I hate it when someone has their phone on during a concert. The light is very distracting.

Esspee Mon 29-Aug-22 06:37:52

What an offensive post. The OP should be ashamed of herself.

Spice101 Mon 29-Aug-22 06:14:18

"Dopey Dora", "Sad sack Sam" "Silly Billy", Negative Nellie" "Plain Jane" and a multitude of other such sayings have been around for years. I'm sure many complaining about using Karen in a negative manner would have used some of these over the years. Only difference was that we did not have social media.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-Aug-22 05:47:52

I love that book

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 22:43:11

We Need to Talk About Kevin

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 22:37:08

Parsley3

Enid101
There has been some interesting research on the ‘Karen’ issue.
One researcher summed it up as someone who moves through the world prepared to fight a faceless conglomerate of lesser-than people who won't give her what she wants and feels she deserves.
Food for thought.

This contradicts your previous post where you complain about people on here being unkind. Research on the 'Karen' issue is not interesting it is insulting our intelligence. Name calling is a childish pursuit and adults should know better.

What absolute rubbish.

What kind of researcher would make that conclusion on no evidence whatsoever?

VioletSky Sun 28-Aug-22 21:35:10

I love the speaking about people as if they aren't right here

Lol

Iam64 Sun 28-Aug-22 21:20:24

Enid, you say you haven’t expressed any opinions but your posts don’t support that

It seems vampire hasn’t asked for her OP to be removed. Quite why VioletSky believes it’s her job to attempt to get it taken down I’m not sure. It’s clear it hasn’t gone the way the OP hoped but that’s the way of discussions

Enid101 Sun 28-Aug-22 16:20:06

MawtheMerrier

@Enid 101
Hi Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking

As I said this not "research".

Ok, I’m out.

MawtheMerrier Sun 28-Aug-22 15:41:41

@Enid 101
Hi Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking

As I said this not "research".

Lucca Sun 28-Aug-22 15:33:44

FannyCornforth

VampireQueen is quite capable of standing up for herself, I’m sure VS
I’m not quite sure why you are reporting the thread

Good heavens…..reported the thread ?a bit OTT. Could all have been avoided with a well meant apology. Not just the first throwaway sentence.

Reporting and accusations of ganging up has become a bit of an epidemic on GN. ??

Enid101 Sun 28-Aug-22 15:29:56

MawtheMerrier

Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking
As if, this is not "research" but the perpetuating of a vicious prejudice, with no evidence of information or even a valid thought process.
Would you grant equal weight to similarly spurious research into relative intelligence of different racial heritages? Or the perceived (by some men) of women's relative inability to park in a restricted space? Of course not - just calling something "research" does not confer validity.

Maw, I haven’t actually expressed any opinions. ?

SueDonim Sun 28-Aug-22 14:28:10

OP just took a rather popular meme younger people are using constantly for whatever reason.

The term ‘gay’ was also a popular meme amongst young folk not so long ago. Is it okay if older women start using it as well? Thought not… hmm