That's a shame hollysteers
What decade were your grandparents born?
What's going on , on the street outside your home right now?
Apologies to all the nice ladies called Karen but today we met a 'Karen'.
We went to a lunchtime concert at Beverley Minster. It was the Berkshire Youth Symphony Orchestra and, if you ever get the chance, I can heartily recommend you go to see them.
DH was using his phone to record some of the music to send to a friend in South Africa who loves classical music. He wasn't the only person recording but Karen seemed to take offence to him alone. Half way through the concert she stormed up behind him and shouted (over the music) that he had ruined the concert for her because she couldn't see when he was recording. Now the layout was such that, unless you were on the first row, you wouldn't be able to see the orchestra anyway but apparently her lack of view was DH's fault. He hadn't done anything to affect her hearing of the music. After she shouted, and without giving him chance to reply, she stormed off and left the Minster. We, and people around us, burst out laughing.
The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position. Then she wouldn't have had to storm out and miss the second half of what was an incredibly good concert.
That's a shame hollysteers
It’s unusual for recording to be allowed for a classical concert.
Usually an announcement is made at the beginning to turn all phones off.
Re the name Karen, I received a birthday card from my brother in law and his wife. She is called Karen, but had given herself a new name I didn’t recognise.
Obviously fed up with the connotations.
I saw him at the Manchester concert in the 60’s then at Woodstock/uk . He was good. I wouldn’t go now but have a great time maggie
I’ll let you know how it goes, Doodle.
? Yes, I’ve heard he can be a bit hit and miss performing live (DH saw him in his heyday and says he always was).
We’re hoping to catch him on a good day.
Maggiemaybe
We’re off to see Bob Dylan later this year. Apparently he doesn’t want anyone using mobiles in any way during his performances, so ours will be placed in some sort of lockable pouch throughout. I’m intrigued to see how this will work, but am more than happy to know that we won’t be distracted.
Now if Bob could just insist on nobody doing the bar/toilet/bar/toilet shuffle during the gig….
Enjoy the concertMaggieMaybe although if he sings the way he did at the last outing I saw, you'd be hard pressed to record anything but mumbling!?
Not a criticism, just a jokey observation.
Another vote for Yammy's post!
Yammy
Bad manners all around.
A concert is to listen to or watch not photograph and very distracting so you and your DH were at fault.
Bad manners from the woman she should have quietly approached someone in charge and asked your DH and anyone else using a phone to switch off.
Bad manners from her getting up and making an exhibition of herself.
A double whammy from you calling her a Karen.
So you are not exactly innocent, are you? Yet you are wanting backing for your actions maybe you feel slightly shame-faced?
Bad manners from the rest of the audience and yourselves laughing at her.
Excellent post Yammy
Bad manners all around.
A concert is to listen to or watch not photograph and very distracting so you and your DH were at fault.
Bad manners from the woman she should have quietly approached someone in charge and asked your DH and anyone else using a phone to switch off.
Bad manners from her getting up and making an exhibition of herself.
A double whammy from you calling her a Karen.
So you are not exactly innocent, are you? Yet you are wanting backing for your actions maybe you feel slightly shame-faced?
Bad manners from the rest of the audience and yourselves laughing at her.
Enjoy Bob Dylan! Do report back on what he was like? Mr Dog and I are great fans.
We’re off to see Bob Dylan later this year. Apparently he doesn’t want anyone using mobiles in any way during his performances, so ours will be placed in some sort of lockable pouch throughout. I’m intrigued to see how this will work, but am more than happy to know that we won’t be distracted.
Now if Bob could just insist on nobody doing the bar/toilet/bar/toilet shuffle during the gig….
I agree, dragonfly46. It seems to be an increasingly common phenomenon. A few years ago, the person in front of me at an amateur performance of a musical whooped whenever her friend appeared then filmed that scene. I was delighted when the usher had a quiet word with the woman!
No actually Spice I have not used any of the terms you mention and nor would I use Karen. It is a very pretty name which has become maligned.
On another note I hate it when someone has their phone on during a concert. The light is very distracting.
What an offensive post. The OP should be ashamed of herself.
"Dopey Dora", "Sad sack Sam" "Silly Billy", Negative Nellie" "Plain Jane" and a multitude of other such sayings have been around for years. I'm sure many complaining about using Karen in a negative manner would have used some of these over the years. Only difference was that we did not have social media.
I love that book
We Need to Talk About Kevin
Parsley3
Enid101
There has been some interesting research on the ‘Karen’ issue.
One researcher summed it up as someone who moves through the world prepared to fight a faceless conglomerate of lesser-than people who won't give her what she wants and feels she deserves.
Food for thought.
This contradicts your previous post where you complain about people on here being unkind. Research on the 'Karen' issue is not interesting it is insulting our intelligence. Name calling is a childish pursuit and adults should know better.
What absolute rubbish.
What kind of researcher would make that conclusion on no evidence whatsoever?
I love the speaking about people as if they aren't right here
Lol
Enid, you say you haven’t expressed any opinions but your posts don’t support that
It seems vampire hasn’t asked for her OP to be removed. Quite why VioletSky believes it’s her job to attempt to get it taken down I’m not sure. It’s clear it hasn’t gone the way the OP hoped but that’s the way of discussions
MawtheMerrier
@Enid 101
Hi Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking
As I said this not "research".
Ok, I’m out.
@Enid 101
Hi Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking
As I said this not "research".
FannyCornforth
VampireQueen is quite capable of standing up for herself, I’m sure VS
I’m not quite sure why you are reporting the thread
Good heavens…..reported the thread ?a bit OTT. Could all have been avoided with a well meant apology. Not just the first throwaway sentence.
Reporting and accusations of ganging up has become a bit of an epidemic on GN. ??
MawtheMerrier
Parsley
I think research is important. It provides insights, shares information and lets us develop our thinking
As if, this is not "research" but the perpetuating of a vicious prejudice, with no evidence of information or even a valid thought process.
Would you grant equal weight to similarly spurious research into relative intelligence of different racial heritages? Or the perceived (by some men) of women's relative inability to park in a restricted space? Of course not - just calling something "research" does not confer validity.
Maw, I haven’t actually expressed any opinions. ?
OP just took a rather popular meme younger people are using constantly for whatever reason.
The term ‘gay’ was also a popular meme amongst young folk not so long ago. Is it okay if older women start using it as well? Thought not… 
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