Doodle
No, I didn't say that amd never said that.
Children have input in their lives (clothes, what to eat, what to do) and parents decide.
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A mother on the tv this evening said she couldn’t ask her three-year-old to layer up this winter.
Agreed no-one likes wearing layers. I didn’t have the money to heat where I lived with my three-year- old in the 70s, and because I wouldn’t go into debt, my daughter went to bed with a long sleeved vest, warm pyjamas and jumper plus socks. Daytime, she was wrapped up very well.
Would you expect your grandchildren to layer up or is it a question of fashion?
Doodle
No, I didn't say that amd never said that.
Children have input in their lives (clothes, what to eat, what to do) and parents decide.
Hithere
This newer generation will survive even thrive in this changing environment, despite the very questionable posts in this thread
Why the lack of faith in the adults older generation raised? (Thinking emoji)
But you are the one who said that children should do what they want and parents should support that (page 1). You can't have it both ways - either parents take charge and are responsible, or they don't.
I don’t think children feel the cold as older people do - my Gdcs don’t seem to, anyway. And in the depth of winter you so often see lots of older schoolchildren in just thin shirts with an open blazer - no coat of any description.
I do recall, as a student of 19 or 20, going out in just a thin mini dress (no jumper or vest of course), very thin tights, an unlined shortie leather coat and high heels - in Yorkshire in midwinter, with snow on the ground. And not really feeling cold.
It’d be a different matter now!
Dh used to have his personal central heating - never wore a coat or jacket - it’s a lot less efficient now, though.
Dd1 has inherited his central heating - always hot!
Dempie55
I saw that interview too, and thought it odd. Surely you dress your child for the weather conditions? If it's cold, you dress them warmly, whether it's for indoors or outdoors?
You can take a horse to water, Dempie!
MiniMoon
Mine already wear layers. They live in a draughty Grade 2 listed cottage. They only have single glazed, wooden framed windows, no double glazing allowed. Original stone floor in the kitchen.
Rather be warm than fashionable I say.
Jokey response - please take as such.
I say "rather live in a modern house and be warm"!
Teacheranne
I think it’s me who is reluctant to layer up too much! I usually wear a t shirt under a sweatshirt in the winter and might add a sleeveless gilet this year but I don’t like feeling too restrained. I like to crochet while watching tv so need my arms free to move.
Last year I found that having my heating set at 19 degrees was comfortable and not too expensive but I might try 18 degrees this year to offset the increased costs. Luckily I’m 66 this October and will be getting my state pension so that will be useful for the extra costs.
Ah, born too late for enhanced Winter Fuel payment this year, but you will get it in Winter 2023!
I saw that interview too, and thought it odd. Surely you dress your child for the weather conditions? If it's cold, you dress them warmly, whether it's for indoors or outdoors?
I think it’s me who is reluctant to layer up too much! I usually wear a t shirt under a sweatshirt in the winter and might add a sleeveless gilet this year but I don’t like feeling too restrained. I like to crochet while watching tv so need my arms free to move.
Last year I found that having my heating set at 19 degrees was comfortable and not too expensive but I might try 18 degrees this year to offset the increased costs. Luckily I’m 66 this October and will be getting my state pension so that will be useful for the extra costs.
I would expect my grandchildrens parents to decide what their children wear. It’s up to them, taking into account household budget, huge increase in costs of heating etc.
When the children were small they had pyjama suits from Mothercare which kept them warm even if they kicked the blankets off
Oh yes, weren't they great. They had rubber or polyurethane soles on the feet so they could toddle in them.
annodomini
Fortunately my grandchildren are old enough to make their own decisions.
Teenagers are a race apart. Even on the coldest days, I see them strolling home from school in short (shortened) skirts, blazers and - sometimes - bare legs. Never an overcoat in sight. Whatever happened to school scarves? Have they heard of gloves?
Teenagers are a race apart ?
As DH says "they go into a tunnel at ten and emerge at twenty as people".
I still have my school scarf somewhere.
I have got my old guernsey out of wardrobe and it looks fine, I have also been keeping an eye out for heavy jumpers in the sales. When the children were small they had pyjama suits from Mothercare which kept them warm even if they kicked the blankets off.
nanna8 I remember also the horizontal winds blowing under the huge gaps between floor and doors.
What I didn’t understand with the young mother who was being interviewed was, if she was not wrapping her child up but heating her home to higher temperatures, who does she expect was going to pay her heating bill.
So many people, according to reports, are cancelling their standing orders.
This newer generation will survive even thrive in this changing environment, despite the very questionable posts in this thread
Why the lack of faith in the adults older generation raised? (Thinking emoji)
We all layer up here in Australia, especially Melbourne where it is freezing one minute and stinking hot the next because of an unstable climate. The children don’t think anything of it, it is just a fact of life. Many houses here are quite cold in winter because most don’t have double glazing.
My daughter always complains about my cold house when she visits, but she expects to wear short sleeves in winter. Its that attitude that's all too prevalent in the young that's behind these panics about the cost of heating.
They'll learn when they can't afford their bills that layers are the only answer. We are all going to have to tighten our belts and use less energy.
But a 3 year old shouldn't be asked she should be told what to wear.
Mine already wear layers. They live in a draughty Grade 2 listed cottage. They only have single glazed, wooden framed windows, no double glazing allowed. Original stone floor in the kitchen.
Rather be warm than fashionable I say.
Of course you expect all the healthy people in the house to 'wrap up warm' when needed.
It is also true that lots of kids seem oblivious to temperature. I have seen my kids wear puffa jackets to play tennis in temperatures of 27deg; and watched them cavort about in underwear, in a tent during a snowstorm! So I wouldn't care what they were wearing as long as I was in charge of the heating.
BUT there are many people: very small children, people with a variety of health conditions, for whom putting on an extra jumper or pair of socks is not the answer. 50 years ago I saw babies 'wrapped up warm' in cold houses who suffered from respiratory complaints. When I visit a cold house, my arthritis is much more painful, however many layers I have on, and it is worse for those who have respiratory, cardiac and circulation problems.
My DGS has got a fluffy (dressing gown thingy). We didn't use the heating much last winter. He wore his fluffy when at home. And warm socks. As did I.
Unless the children, young people or anyone else in the house are actually paying the heating bills, they've got no room to complain about the temperature.
It’s a new turn of phrase for me.
I would say “wrapped up warm” but in any case it’s not my business but the children’s parents ’.
Fortunately my grandchildren are old enough to make their own decisions.
Teenagers are a race apart. Even on the coldest days, I see them strolling home from school in short (shortened) skirts, blazers and - sometimes - bare legs. Never an overcoat in sight. Whatever happened to school scarves? Have they heard of gloves?
I hope my DD's would have the sense to layer up their children without me having to tell them.
One has already got an allotment and supplies me with their surplus veg. They are very astute and buy next years clothes and school uniform in this years sales. No doubt they will have a cupboard of warm gilets etc. they bought in the spring sales.
I hated wearing a vest!
When we went swimming at school it took me ages to undress.
Vest, full slip, blouse, cardigan...
I wanted to be like the girls who wore a dress and knickers.
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