People earning 45K plus to receive Energy help

Liz Truss seems increasingly out of her depth. What kind of future prime minister refuses interviews? The one who can’t answer questions, the one with no real ideas.

The idea that the energy companies keep their huge profits and that tax cuts are the answer is the stuff of comedy. Tax cuts benefit the rich.

Means testing any cash the population are to ve given to help us survive thus winter, must be a nonstarter. The cost of means testing outweighs any savings

We have donated our winter fuel payment to a local charity but this year, we will keep it. Charities, food banks etc are going to be hard hit.

Like Iam64 I have always donated my WFP to charity, in my case the Salvation Army and Crisis.
This year I shall still make a small donation but will really need it this year along with the additional help we are being given.
My fixed rate deal ends tomorrow and I dread to think what it will be by January.
My utilities company is EDF and they have withdrawn all fixed deals.

I have a fixed rate contract until March ‘23, but can’t help wondering if the prices will go up out of proportion in March to make up for what I am saving now??

My worry is that even if the price of gas/electricity, food at source eventually come down, the higher prices that the public will gradually be paying, might never reduce.

What makes me sad is how a lot of people are playing into the governments’ hands by turning on each other instead of coming together to put pressure on what is supposed to be a democratic government.

Nannina

What makes me sad is how a lot of people are playing into the governments’ hands by turning on each other instead of coming together to put pressure on what is supposed to be a democratic government.

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on the news last night it said for comparison, France had capped their energy at 4% compared to our 80%

So if they're part of a couple, each earning around 45K, should they still get help? Is £90K p.a. not an mount that you can work around? Veggie and lentil stew costs the same whether you're a singleton or a family of 5. Same as a singleton most likely pays similar heating and lighting costs as that family. So, who is most in need of help? It's not rocket science. A family of 5's single take-out once a week would easily pay for my week's food shop, with treats. Just sayin'.

I'm curious to see our new rate, currently £435/month.

Fix ends in October. I suppose new rate to be grim.

Norah, I am dreading it too as for electric alone we are paying @£200 I've actually ordered oil today as I had enough money banked as I don't know what is going to happen with that

effalump

So if they're part of a couple, each earning around 45K, should they still get help? Is £90K p.a. not an mount that you can work around? Veggie and lentil stew costs the same whether you're a singleton or a family of 5. Same as a singleton most likely pays similar heating and lighting costs as that family. So, who is most in need of help? It's not rocket science. A family of 5's single take-out once a week would easily pay for my week's food shop, with treats. Just sayin'.

Yes they should, because the costs of administering a scheme to check total household income and differentiate between the ‘deserving’ and the ‘not deserving’ is likely to cost more than any savings, it’s much more straightforward to make one payment per household. If you have a home you get the payment - simple.

Casdon

effalump

So if they're part of a couple, each earning around 45K, should they still get help? Is £90K p.a. not an mount that you can work around? Veggie and lentil stew costs the same whether you're a singleton or a family of 5. Same as a singleton most likely pays similar heating and lighting costs as that family. So, who is most in need of help? It's not rocket science. A family of 5's single take-out once a week would easily pay for my week's food shop, with treats. Just sayin'.

Yes they should, because the costs of administering a scheme to check total household income and differentiate between the ‘deserving’ and the ‘not deserving’ is likely to cost more than any savings, it’s much more straightforward to make one payment per household. If you have a home you get the payment - simple.

Also, two earners should have more income than a two-person house with one earner. The second earner isn't working for fun. Households with one earner (other than single person ones) are already subsidised, as there is only one taxpayer for two adults and both use the NHS, education, roads and everything else. The idea that they should be further subsidised seems wrong to me. Everyone should get the subsidy.

Single households (ie those with one income and one adult) are a different matter, but there is no easy way for them to be targeted for extra money. Maybe something could be added to the single person's Council Tax discount? There must be some sort of record of single household for that to work.

what about if the person at home is a carer to a disabled relative or child? they are saving the economy thousands, many thousands maybe even millions over a few years or more

Yes, they (and all disabled people) should get more help, too. It is frightening to see people who are unable to manage without heating and equipment worrying about the future. It is shameful that this is happening in a rich country like ours.

There was a woman on the news earlier who needs an electric device of some kind to help her to breathe, and she is worried about paying for the energy to power it. It is appalling that people are in that situation.

Also, for what my opinion matters, I don't think for a moment that carers are being subsidised. Quite the reverse.

Norah

I'm curious to see our new rate, currently £435/month.

Fix ends in October. I suppose new rate to be grim.

Like you, my fixed term ends in October so am waiting to hear what I’ll be paying after. Currently pay £110 a month dual fuel ( and was in credit after last winter) so dread to think what it will be over the winter. I’m expecting it to be at least £300 but that might be rather optimistic!