And it’s Liz as new PM

Theoddbird

Blondiescot, how would you feel if you were going into a new job and everyone was saying that you would be rubbish? All I am saying that we should give Liz and her team a chance. A lot of new faces with new ideas. We need to be positive. Gransnet is always full of negativity. I am a great believer in sending positivity out into the Universe. More people should try it...

"Gransnet is always full of negativity"

That's a very negative comment Theoddbird

And as has been said, she has been a cabinet minister for longer than, I believe, anyone else but Gove. She was a key player in the governments that got us to this point. She has had all the chances in the Universe.

Johnson’s have just bought a £3m house near me in Sarf London (he’s bought in the posh bit) - it’s a long way from Uxbridge. He won’t be serving his constituents much from here. It’s a Labour constituency and voted 80% remain. Liz Truss has lived quite near in next S London borough for years . I’ve never been sure what her connection with Norfolk was.

I think if I hear the word "deliver" one more time, I might just scream.

Germanshepherdsmum

As I said earlier Theoddbird, she isn’t a new face and nor will a lot of her Cabinet members be unknown to us. Based on her previous performance we don’t have much reason for positivity.

I'm glad you've said that, GSM. You're not so blue as to have lost your grip on reality ?

Does it say anything about her grasp of reality?

I'm just going to wait and see. I'm amazed she's so thrilled to get the job actually. I can't imagine being PM at the moment is a job many normal folk would want.

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Me being positive will have zero impact on whether Truss is a good PM or not.

As I said earlier Theoddbird, she isn’t a new face and nor will a lot of her Cabinet members be unknown to us. Based on her previous performance we don’t have much reason for positivity.

Blondiescot, how would you feel if you were going into a new job and everyone was saying that you would be rubbish? All I am saying that we should give Liz and her team a chance. A lot of new faces with new ideas. We need to be positive. Gransnet is always full of negativity. I am a great believer in sending positivity out into the Universe. More people should try it...

Surely Johnson is still an MP
Yes, he is.

Johnson is writing his bio right now and then its off to speaking events etc.

Surely Johnson is still an MP and should now be focussing his time on serving his constituents in Uxbridge! Goodness knows, they’ve probably had precious little support from him in the past.

Truss’ speech was a weak list of soundbites with no mention of levelling up, which was supposed to be such a big part of the Tory platform, or of the climate crisis , which is obviously to be ignored She may have appealed to a few Tory members, but she hasn’t won over the voters at large yet. The new cabinet seems to be stuffed with characters with little track record, limited intellectual gravitas, another bunch of nodding dogs.

Never mind, even if she's slaughtered (and I hope not) she'll have the ex PMs allowance of £115,000 per annum to struggle along on.

The reality is that political activists tend to be at the extreme end of the spectrum that got Corbyn elected and Johnson. Who knows how Truss will turn out, although I expect the right wing of the Tory party to dominate, plenty of lofty ambitions in her speech today, and nowhere enough time to do it.

Theoddbird

Why are people who post on here so negative. Day after day I see negative comments about everything. Why not say...give her a chance. Let's see what she does. She might bring a breath of fresh air and ideas that will work...

The Tories have been in power now for 12 years, under a variety of leaders. Please enlighten me as to why we should think it will be any different under this one?

Bea65

Well thank goodness this new PM debacle is over.. just have to see if what is promised is delivered and hope we all get the support we need?

Well said ??????????

Why are people who post on here so negative. Day after day I see negative comments about everything. Why not say...give her a chance. Let's see what she does. She might bring a breath of fresh air and ideas that will work...

didn’t ( why does auto correct always change it to Did Ty?)

Germanshepherdsmum

He'll certainly make more money! A lot of people think the PM's salary is huge. It really, really isn't. Worked out on an hourly basis it would be well below minimum wage despite the provision of living accommodation and other expenses.

Did Ty Thatcher arrange for ex PM’s to have a pretty big salary?

I think Sunak is in a position to do far better than that.

Germanshepherdsmum

He'll certainly make more money! A lot of people think the PM's salary is huge. It really, really isn't. Worked out on an hourly basis it would be well below minimum wage despite the provision of living accommodation and other expenses.

It's not the salary that attracts them. It's the big bucks that can be made after leaving office. Johnson is writing his bio right now and then its off to speaking events etc. Once he has hay in the loft then he can plan his comeback, as he referenced in his leaving speech.

Just my experience Casdon.

Germanshepherdsmum

Criticising Angela Raynor is sacrilege here ruthie.

That’s nonsense Germanshepherdsmum. There are all shades of political opinion, and within Labour supporters not everybody thinks Angela Rayner is an asset to the shadow cabinet, just the same as not everybody who’s a Tory supporter rated Liz Truss- but Rayner is not who this discussion is about.

Her first chance to set out a vision, and to inspire us (even a bit) and all she can manage is a string of boring cliches?

She doesn’t have to be an orator; she doesnt have to be witty. She does need to show there is some substance to her ideas, and she failed miserably. Her speech was just trite and shallow. It’s the sort of thing you’d expect from a low achieving backbencher, who hasn’t been briefed properly.

Aspiration nation? Shoot me now.