And it’s Liz as new PM

I suppose Ms Coffey has an incentive to look after the NHS because she will be needing its services soon ?
It's a time bomb waiting to happen in Britain with so many overweight/morbidly obese (Coffey comes in this category I would think) people.

effalump agree she isn't the best role model as Health Secretary..i have my own weight issues and labelled obese and not as heavy as her but GP designated a nurse to oversee my weight issues..how can she Ms Coffey represent us a Health Secretary..bloody unbelievable..am staggered..and don't get me started on her smoking habit..ugh!

For those 1950's born women (myself included) who are having to wait to receive their SP, I should think there is no joy in seeing Therese Coffey as Health Secretary. She, along with Guy Opperman have been in complete denial that waiting an extra 6 years for your SP after paying into it for you whole working life has consequences. Now, we have a person who obviously enjoys her food a little too much and, apparently, likes to smoke cigars, will probably also deny the fact that it generally falls on women to care for elderly relatives which usually ends up affecting their health too. I don't expect many people will hang on her every word with regards to health. And, sorry, I'm being affected by the mercury retrograde and the forthcoming full moon this weekend, but she make Boris look like a Vogue model (sarc).

granto2

I agree GrannyGravy. Let’s hope for the best.

..and prepare for the worst.

I wonder if her two schools will now 'own' her as she disowned them. Can't see anything on their websites.

From what I have read, her economic and policy advisers are of the Tax Payer's Alliance and similar groups, so more small government, austerity and trickle down economics. Politicians can be forgiven for being focused on the here and now, but the disaster of Osborne's austerity is still with us in our skeletal public services. On a very simplistic note ( Gcse Economics) there is little point in attracting companies with lower Corporation Tax if the market, ie consumers, are not spending money due to fear of job loss, increased mortgage costs etc. Remember, one of the delightful promises is yet another 'bonfire' or regulations, so kiss goodbye to your adult children's job security. I honestly cannot think of one good thing to come from this Tory administration including Ms Truss.

I agree GrannyGravy. Let’s hope for the best.

I am absolutely no Tory, but, watching a clip of John Major yesterday, he always came across as a credible leader and statesman. Even Mrs Thatcher gave an air of competence ( unclenches teeth).
Boris Johnson simply came across as a buffoon ( whether deliberate or not), and I can’t say Liz Truss has an impressive presence either.
And, no, I’m with Petera, governing a country is not something at which someone should be ‘ given a chance’. How do those who believe that feel about giving Keir Starmer a chance?

I'm not an economist so like to hear the views of those who are.

Here's the conclusion of one economist, Simon Wren Lewis

This means that there is no big change in government strategy. All Chancellors want higher growth - it’s what they do to try and achieve it that matters. The underlying strategy under Truss will be just more of the same as we had after 2010: cutting ‘red tape’ and taxes. In addition, given her backers in the ERG, she will find it hard to deviate from a path of confrontation with the EU. This new Conservative administration is doing nothing more than doubling down on an already failed economic strategy, hoping one last push will reverse the stagnation we have seen since that strategy was first applied. It seems that the Conservative party mean to carry on what they have done since 2010, which is to harm the economy by their actions or neglect.

mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2022/09/

I'm waiting to see the detail of what has been widely touted as Truss's recue package to deal with the high energy prices. At the moment it looks as though it's a glorified version of Sunak's original scheme which involved an enforced 'loan' to all domestic energy users, to be 'paid back' via their energy bills over a period of time. Truss's plan could involve a far larger enforced loan to be paid back over a longer period of time. I can't see this being any more popular than Sunak's scheme was (and which he abandoned later)

DaisyAnne

Germanshepherdsmum

Something that troubles me, and perhaps it shouldn't, is the influence of her husband. He's stayed out of the limelight but he has a degree in econometrics and mathematical economics and she freely admits discussing her economic policies with him. Will we have an additional, unappointed adviser behind the scenes?

I think she is going to have to explain her economics. If he can help her do that so that we can pass judgement, then I can live with that. I we found she was listening to him rather than ministers and civil service advisors that would not be good.

I'm looking forward to seeing her face close questioning on her much-criticised economic policies. Alone. I'm not willing her policies to fail because that would be bad news for everyone (except the Opposition), but I am genuinely curious about the validity of the criticisms, as to which time will tell. I'm not an economist so like to hear the views of those who are.

Germanshepherdsmum Agree Mr Truss might be her sounding board..she seemed on the doorstep of No.10 very adoring of him and I actually thought she went in for a cheek kiss..but didn't get one

Germanshepherdsmum

Something that troubles me, and perhaps it shouldn't, is the influence of her husband. He's stayed out of the limelight but he has a degree in econometrics and mathematical economics and she freely admits discussing her economic policies with him. Will we have an additional, unappointed adviser behind the scenes?

I think she is going to have to explain her economics. If he can help her do that so that we can pass judgement, then I can live with that. I we found she was listening to him rather than ministers and civil service advisors that would not be good.

henetha

It surely is only fair to give her a chance.

No, it isn't. That is not how politics work. We may not like it, but it is a fact. I would rather critique policy than personality (unless someone is inappropriate or lawbreaking). Not everyone agrees, so "fair" doesn't come into it.

henetha

It surely is only fair to give her a chance.

I might need a hip replacement. My surgeon has never done it before but has been responsible for assisting in many disastrous operations over the last 12 years. So…(oh I give up you know where I'm going with this)

Something that troubles me, and perhaps it shouldn't, is the influence of her husband. He's stayed out of the limelight but he has a degree in econometrics and mathematical economics and she freely admits discussing her economic policies with him. Will we have an additional, unappointed adviser behind the scenes?

It surely is only fair to give her a chance.

Theoddbird

Blondiescot, how would you feel if you were going into a new job and everyone was saying that you would be rubbish? All I am saying that we should give Liz and her team a chance. A lot of new faces with new ideas. We need to be positive. Gransnet is always full of negativity. I am a great believer in sending positivity out into the Universe. More people should try it...

She knew what she was taking on. I don't get the impression she is about to collapse under the comments. If she is, she is the wrong person for the job, surely.

I am not expecting to like her politics (never say never), but I enjoyed the manner of her speech yesterday. I know it's been heavily criticised for not setting the world alight with jokes and flummery, but that's okay with me if - and this is essential - she deals with the problems in the best way for all.

If she thinks she's protected herself by appointing people who (conditionally) supported her, she may have a rude awakening. Some of these people still harbour ambitions. Brutus is always lurking.

True enough. Do you think there are any Tory MPs who understand the difference between campaigning and governing?

I am genuinely baffled as well. The wider party was fairly divided over her, with the majority not voting for her. The majority of MPs voted against her. Wouldn’t you think she’d want to do some bridge building? It seems to me further evidence that she is a very poor strategist.

Me too. But that’s what happens when you buy support with promises of jobs.

I’m equal parts appalled and terrified by her Cabinet selections.

? Maizie

Who does?

Gransnet has been negative, but then it has be a very negative outlook for the last few years, Truss has a mountain to climb I’m sure we all hope she is successful, time will tell.

Petera

Theoddbird

Blondiescot, how would you feel if you were going into a new job and everyone was saying that you would be rubbish? All I am saying that we should give Liz and her team a chance. A lot of new faces with new ideas. We need to be positive. Gransnet is always full of negativity. I am a great believer in sending positivity out into the Universe. More people should try it...

"Gransnet is always full of negativity"

That's a very negative comment Theoddbird

And as has been said, she has been a cabinet minister for longer than, I believe, anyone else but Gove. She was a key player in the governments that got us to this point. She has had all the chances in the Universe.

..and apologies to GSM who got there before me. Must read to the end of the thread, must read to the end of the thread...