What a shame

AussieGran59

Quite a few of you disagree with me and that’s fine but I speak from experience after a nursing career of over 40 years. What I often saw and heard brought me to my present way of thinking, sadly.

I think you are right. Surely when you get to that age you are entitled to a drink in the evening. No point going on for years and depriving yourself of what makes you happy.

Barmeyoldbat

Like it Callistermon

Not sure about banana cake, it could be too sweet

Like it Callistermon

My dear mil loved a whisky and lemonade but lived by herself. So afraid of falling she never had one again. I used to say to her have one and I’ll put you to bed! She was 96 and spitting dabs of the queen!

Barmeyoldbat

Well I did say I would carryon having cake with my coffee when I was out cycling but I would have skimmed milk instead of semi skimmed in my coffee. I think you are as old as you feel in answer to your question

It's a compromise.

I'm sure carrot, beetroot or courgette cake counts as one of your five a day.

My granda lived until he was 97 and said his one bottle of Guinness a day was the reason why lol. He died in the hospital, first time he had ever stayed in one. Maybe there is something really good in the Black Stuff.

Well I did say I would carryon having cake with my coffee when I was out cycling but I would have skimmed milk instead of semi skimmed in my coffee. I think you are as old as you feel in answer to your question

Barmeyoldbat

My Dr told me after my last lot of blood tests that I could be diabetic in 10 to 15 years. I am 75.

Doctor's duty to warn you- up to you to do something about it or not.

However, and here is the crux- being diabetic can make all the difference between a 'good' death or a 'bad' one. So I'd want to know.

Barmeyoldbat

My Dr told me after my last lot of blood tests that I could be diabetic in 10 to 15 years. I am 75.

Oh dear, better watch your diet, BOB!

How old is old these days?
Asking for myself, not a friend.

mumofmadboys

It is unusual for doctors to be too dogmatic in their advice to elderly patients. Quality of life is what matters and doctors are usually practical people and realists.

Well said mumofmadboys.
Your wise posts are much appreciated.

My Dr told me after my last lot of blood tests that I could be diabetic in 10 to 15 years. I am 75.

To me it would seem common sense to assume her doctor knew a bit more about her clinical status than the general public. I’m guessing he understood her medical situation was such that alcohol would help her deteriorate much faster. Unless anyone has first hand knowledge of her medical records, it seems silly at best to assume the doctors advice shouldn’t have been followed.

The OP says "the Queen was advised by her doctor to give up her evening drink". For one thing, how do we learn of this piece of advice? And, for another thing, do we think she actually took it?
Talk about useless speculation!

I agree it is a shame that Her Majesty could no longer enjoy
a drink .
Perhaps it was due to her medication .

I also think that she deserved a rest to enjoy her dogs and horses .
But it must have been her choice - duty to the very end .

BlueBelle

Good grief when I get in my 90 s I m going to drink smoke a spliff and have wild sex

Do we know she took any notice of the advise at all, do we know she didn’t think ‘Damn doctors i ll have me little tipple when I want it’ ???

Blimey Bluebelle, have you got a willing hunk locked in a cupboard, with the spliff, the alcohol and perhaps a little blue pill.
Can’t wait to read your posts when you come of age.

It is unusual for doctors to be too dogmatic in their advice to elderly patients. Quality of life is what matters and doctors are usually practical people and realists.

My late MiL’s doctor recommended a lunch time sherry for them both once they got to 80. It made buying them presents easy, and quite often when he called in to see how they were (those were the days!) he had one too. Their sherry glasses were minute and we use them as liqueur glasses.

Queen Margrethe of Denmark is now Europe’s longest resigning monarch. At the age of 82 she is apparently an inveterate chain smoker. I am sure she knows smoking is bad for you but she continues anyway!

It’s her own Golden Jubilee this year but she’s postponed/cancelled this weekend’s celebrations out of respect for the queen, her third cousin.

My DHs grandma aged 88 persuaded the doctor that a tiny drop of whisky in her tea at bedtime was fine.
Problem was she had very shaky hands and I saw her pour in much more than a tiny drop. She wondered why she woke up at 5am in her chair and hadn't made it to bed.

When I worked in what was then called a Geriatric department in the 70s quite a few of the patients had a small sherry prescribed for them in the evening drug round. I have known doctors who would be constantly pestering 20- and 30-year-olds to stop smoking or to cut down their drinking, but leaving anyone who had got to 80 or 90 to get on with it. Seems sensible to me.

Perhaps the Queen had been prescribed medication that wasn’t compatible with alcohol.

An aunt wasn't allowed salt on her meals in hospital (it was banned by the Consultant) so she couldn't eat any dinner.
She was 99. Sister in charge said she'd make sure she would have a sprinkle of salt on her dinner if I fetched some packets from the café.

When she was over 90, with pretty well advanced dementia, my mother was told by one of the care home staff that she ‘ought’ to be choosing the brown bread sandwiches (little triangular ones brought round at teatime) instead of the white, because they were healthier.

For once I didn’t button my lip - I said for heaven’s sake, at her age she can eat whatever she likes.
Who on earth wants a dementia-ridden life of already 90 odd to be prolonged by ‘healthy’ eating anyway?

Might add that that particular member of staff was the only one in nearly 8 years who I didn’t take to. IMO she was in the wrong job.

BlueBelle

Good grief when I get in my 90 s I m going to drink smoke a spliff and have wild sex

Do we know she took any notice of the advise at all, do we know she didn’t think ‘Damn doctors i ll have me little tipple when I want it’ ???

You might only live until you're 96 if you indulge like that, Bluebelle ?

If you abstain you might live until 100+ (and be miserable).

I think there’s two issues here.

One is whether people have the right to lead make their own decisions even if it’s detrimental to them in some way. Yes!

But it’s being muddled with whether doctors have the right to make those decisions for them eg by deciding not to tell them a medical fact about their condition. Thereby depriving the patient of choice. No!

Do people really believe that doctors should be responsible for deciding who gets good medical advice and who doesn’t? Especially based on a non-medical judgement about age ?