"The Coffin" !

Elspeth45

Lots of tv coverage here in Oz, wonderful footage. Unfortunately one channel brought in Angela Rippon, so my tv was muted before I changed channels. She was awful!

I agree Elapeth45 I watched her coverage of the Proclamation and she seemed to loose sight of the sadness of the occasion and thought it should be used as a public relations event.

The reporter who described the arrival in London and Buckingham Palace had none of the above faults and was excellent.

Popular English usage, of which the official commentaries of recent street scenes are an example, is banal, full of cliches and platitudes and inappropriate metaphors and euphemisms.

Elspeth45

Lots of tv coverage here in Oz, wonderful footage. Unfortunately one channel brought in Angela Rippon, so my tv was muted before I changed channels. She was awful!

Yes I was surprised when Angela Ripon was on a UK channel recently. She was very forceful when expressing her views, and almost shouted others down.

GrannyLaine you are right, there is little time for "chilling". However, comments by posters who have had to return late loved ones from abroad bear witness that such circumstances are fairly common for funeral directors to prepare for. They have the training and experience.

I found the 10 minute vigil by the sides of the Queen`s coffin by her 4 children very moving.

Elegran

buffyfly9

I remove "moved about". I will replace it with the knowledge (substantiated) that her body is in a coffin for eleven days, presumably lined with lead. Most bodies are within temperature controlled conditions until the funeral.

She is under the care of William Purvis, a respected Scottish funeral director. When she is not lying in state or travelling, her body in its lead-lined casket will be in their temperature-controlled storage, and I'd imagine their five generations will have amassed plenty of knowledge about how to look after a body that is not being buried immediately.

I don't think that's the case Elegran. The movement of her Late Majesty's coffin is clearly mapped out and it doesn't include returning to temperature controlled storage. A lead lined coffin is sealed and airtight.

"Using lead prevents air and moisture from building up, aiding preservation. Experts say airtight coffins are particularly important when they are laid to rest above ground.
The Queen’s final resting place will be the King George VI memorial chapel in St George’s Chapel at Windsor Castle, where her mother and father were buried, along with the ashes of her sister, Princess Margaret. Prince Philip’s coffin will move from the Royal Vault to the memorial chapel to join the Queen’s"

She was excellent, wasn't she?

Apologies Volver, a slip of my typing.

I still enjoyed her singing though.

Calendargirl

I agree eazybee.

What a lovely service.

That Gallic singer and harp player, and the excellent address by the moderator.

Very fitting.

Gaelic.

Karen's not French.

buffyfly9

I remove "moved about". I will replace it with the knowledge (substantiated) that her body is in a coffin for eleven days, presumably lined with lead. Most bodies are within temperature controlled conditions until the funeral.

She is under the care of William Purvis, a respected Scottish funeral director. When she is not lying in state or travelling, her body in its lead-lined casket will be in their temperature-controlled storage, and I'd imagine their five generations will have amassed plenty of knowledge about how to look after a body that is not being buried immediately.

Tonight there is a queue winding around the Meadows complete with babies in pushchairs. Do people realise they may have a 12 hour wait to see inside St Giles?

SueDonim

I agree, Eazybee. Edinburgh did itself proud today. I thought the sight of the Crown of Scotland resting on the Queen’s coffin was beautiful.

Another thing that made me well up. Every time I saw a flag at half mast today I welled up as well. It made me think back to just a few months ago when we drove round looking at all the Union jacks and bunting everywhere.

I agree, Eazybee. Edinburgh did itself proud today. I thought the sight of the Crown of Scotland resting on the Queen’s coffin was beautiful.

I agree eazybee.

What a lovely service.

That Gallic singer and harp player, and the excellent address by the moderator.

Very fitting.

Well, I watched the procession leave Holyrood House, the walk to St. Giles Cathedral, and the following service, and I thought it was beautiful, dignified and moving.

Why shouldn't it be? my friend died at Easter and it was 2 months before they were able to bury her because the crematoriums were so busy.

My mother died in France and we had to transport her back to England. That included a lead lined coffin, mandatory. She was moved from our house to the undertaker in the nearest town. then to a specialist undertaker to prepare her coffin and corpse to transport standards, then she was moved to Cherbourg, then put on a ferry, then was collected by the home undertaker who took her to the funeral parlour that she remained in until the funeral.

The Queen died in Scotland, is being buried in Windsor and many people, including members of my own family want to to see some part of the funeral procession so, on the journey south, she is resting in the capitol of the country she loved so much and was so happy. There the citizens of Scotland are paying their respects.

From the crowds lining the country roads and city streets she has passed through, it is a quite clear, that the political sophisticates may enjoy turning their noses up at hoi polloi (they always do) wanted this opportunity to say goodbye. Had it not happened their would have been protests from ordinary people feeling the new monarch is out of touch and insensitive.

From London the body goes by plane to London, delivered to her London home, and from their to lie in state in Westminster Hall. the same applies here as in Scotland the intellectually superior may disdain such events, but they are outnumbered many times by those who do. want them. From there she goes to the church for the funeral service and then to the site of her burial. Many people are buried in cemeteries far from where their funerals take place.

All seems perfectly normal, natural and shows great sensitivity in planning events, when the main protagonists would almpst undoubtedly prefer to retire to the privacy of their own home to grieve, as other families do, but feel it necessary to go through all this because so many people want it.

I remove "moved about". I will replace it with the knowledge (substantiated) that her body is in a coffin for eleven days, presumably lined with lead. Most bodies are within temperature controlled conditions until the funeral.

If you had read my post correctly you would see that my reference to fainting and wailing was at Diana's funeral NOT this one.

I agree with buffyfly9 about blanket coverage and the fact that the BBC learned nothing from the criticism of when Prince Philip died. The various channels should agree between them to keep one for the coverage and allow the rest of the world to get on. There are other things happening in the world.

Crossed links, Juliet27

metro.co.uk/video/tractors-line-queen-coffin-heads-edinburgh-2770723/

There was film of the tractor tribute on BBC although I can’t find it today.

Lots of tv coverage here in Oz, wonderful footage. Unfortunately one channel brought in Angela Rippon, so my tv was muted before I changed channels. She was awful!

Elegran Why do you think all those tractors and trencher diggers were besidethe road?

No, but I get your point and will take this digression no further.