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The age of those flocking to see the cortege of the Queen and to the lying in state.

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M0nica Wed 14-Sept-22 18:18:26

Watching the coverage of the funeral cortege of the Queen on its journey from Balmoral to Westminster Hall, the thing I have noticed is how young so many of those queueing up are. So many families with children as well as young people.

From many commentators there has been an assumption that monarchy is something we are growing out of and young people today have no interest in it.

The crowds I have seen over the last few days seem to suggest that this is wishful thinking.

Caleo Sun 18-Sept-22 09:18:31

Children too like the feeling of togetherness.

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-22 09:18:54

So a non political president

Pantglas2 Sun 18-Sept-22 09:19:10

volver

I believe you live in France Joeanne?

Have you tried starting a campaign to replace the President with a descendant of Marie-Antoinette? Because that is what you are saying would be better than an elected President.

Ha ha - I might try the same here in Spain volver....oh wait Franco beat me to it!

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 09:20:58

Do you want me to say yes so that you can say "well that will never happen" Anniebach, like you have so many times before?

Well, that's not going to happen smile

The constitutional arguments against democracy are going to have to be a bit more complex than that, I'm afraid.

Aveline Sun 18-Sept-22 09:51:47

People will always argue. Some people really enjoy it apparently. Doesn't mean it will make any difference.
Interesting that the Scandinavian and Dutch countries all have monarchies. So many countries with elected presidents run into difficulties.

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 09:55:00

Thailand has a monarchy too.

How's that going?

Aveline Sun 18-Sept-22 09:56:13

Ooh is that the sound of the barrel scraping?
I would remind you that like other countries the UK tried a republic but went back to a monarchy.

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 10:02:09

One might be wondering why you seem to want to discount the Thai monarchy and the Thai people Aveline. There might be many reasons.

Caleo Sun 18-Sept-22 10:26:30

I heard that the Spanish Queen did a lot to stop the corrida.

Coco51 Sun 18-Sept-22 10:30:15

Aveline

I suppose the elections of Hitler, Putin and Trump may have put some people off!

???

Aveline Sun 18-Sept-22 10:30:27

volver any reason you're ignoring all my points?

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 10:36:54

What, the point that we tried something 350 years ago, when there was no universal suffrage and a dictator was installed who tried to establish his own dynasty? And that's a good reason for not adopting modern democracy?

It's not a serious point.

DaisyAnne Sun 18-Sept-22 10:41:56

Is there a single thread that hasn't been taken over by the small minority of republicans?

Why not start you own. "Constitutional Monarchy v Republic" and you can talk about it between you to your hearts content.

This constant diversion of thread topic is very, very, boring (or maybe that's only mesad)

Aveline Sun 18-Sept-22 10:50:49

It's not just you DaisyAnne. I don't know why they go on and on saying the same things and wondering why we don't all just agree with them. Bottom line is that we don't and won't no matter how they try to hammer home their point. Wouldn't be allowed in eg Russia, of course they are 'lucky' enough to have an 'elected' president. grin

DaisyAnne Sun 18-Sept-22 10:54:01

Aveline

It's not just you DaisyAnne. I don't know why they go on and on saying the same things and wondering why we don't all just agree with them. Bottom line is that we don't and won't no matter how they try to hammer home their point. Wouldn't be allowed in eg Russia, of course they are 'lucky' enough to have an 'elected' president. grin

grin

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 11:00:23

Is there a single thread that hasn't been taken over by the small minority of republicans?

Yes, there are many. You're just not looking in the right place.

And as I said yesterday, if people ask about republics, I'll answer them, provided it's a serious post. And if you don't want us to talk about things, not sure about the point of joining a discussion forum

Now, where's my fur hat and snow shoes?

DaisyAnne Sun 18-Sept-22 12:08:36

So, if I start a "Constitutional Monarchy v Republic" would you just stick to that volver and not distract from other threads? It would be nice to wait until the queen has actually been buried though. Just a bit of thought for the feelings of others, even those you don't agree with.

Where, oh where, has anyone asked you about republics without a republican already having switched the topic. People do want to talk about "things", i.e., what is happening currently. They are talking about them in answer to various OPs. Some threads wander which is, of course, okay.

However, the republican seems like a person who walks into a conversation going on in a group and simply starts talking about, well, republicanism. It would be very odd, even inappropriate, in real life and is very odd that it is happening on every thread relative to the current event in this country.

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 12:42:18

Where, oh where, has anyone asked you about republics without a republican already having switched the topic.

Just about every thread DaisyAnne. You seem to be having trouble finding threads today.

volver Sun 18-Sept-22 12:48:51

And of course I would be delighted to take part on a serious thread about constitutional monarchy compared to republics.

Although that doesn't mean I'll stay off any other threads, like a dog distracted by a squirrel. grin

Normandygirl Sun 18-Sept-22 12:54:43

DaisyAnne

Is there a single thread that hasn't been taken over by the small minority of republicans?

Why not start you own. "Constitutional Monarchy v Republic" and you can talk about it between you to your hearts content.

This constant diversion of thread topic is very, very, boring (or maybe that's only mesad)

The OP , which I presume has been posted to invite discussion states,
"From many commentators there has been an assumption that monarchy is something we are growing out of and young people today have no interest in it.

The crowds I have seen over the last few days seem to suggest that this is wishful thinking."

"Are we growing out of the monarchy "is the subject under discussion and no one has " diverted" anything. Perhaps I have missed the bit that says, " Please only post if you agree with me"?

DaisyAnne Sun 18-Sept-22 13:14:27

You are right about the question asked on this particular thread, Normandygirl. It was a poor choice to use to comment on the overpowering of threads by Republicans. However, far from saying "please only post if you agree with me", I did ask if I was the only one feeling that way.

As I said, it has not been just this thread which, on its own, would make some sense. It has been on every thread about the death of the Queen.

You think I am wrong. I did ask if anyone did as I do like to be even-handed. So, thank you for your reply.

grannyro Sun 18-Sept-22 13:43:16

I just did a 12 hour queue to see her laying in state and I agree, there were a lot of young people there. It was heartening to see how many different ages and races there were. It seems everyone loved the Queen.

Normandygirl Sun 18-Sept-22 14:07:40

DaisyAnne

You are right about the question asked on this particular thread, Normandygirl. It was a poor choice to use to comment on the overpowering of threads by Republicans. However, far from saying "please only post if you agree with me", I did ask if I was the only one feeling that way.

As I said, it has not been just this thread which, on its own, would make some sense. It has been on every thread about the death of the Queen.

You think I am wrong. I did ask if anyone did as I do like to be even-handed. So, thank you for your reply.

If you ask "Am I the only one feeling that way" you are inviting comments from posters whose feelings do not mirror your own surely?
Anyway, I understand and agree with your comments about some threads being diverted but this is not one of them.

DaisyAnne Sun 18-Sept-22 16:18:51

I think you may have missed my last paragraph Normandygirl. I did think there would be different views as I say there.

Just before I went out this afternoon, they interviewed the Australian President. They are now taking sound bites from it but when asked about the republican movement in his country, he said, "now is not the time" - wise man smile

Aveline Sun 18-Sept-22 16:46:32

Just read that Boris has been in the queue for 15 hours but media not covering this. Security issues? Don't know. Surely, as other MPs are allowed to queue jump, he could be too unless he just wants to do the right thing like David Beckham?