Watching the funeral procession

I do hope that Charles isn’t crowned with the Imperial State Crown

I thought that St Edward’s Crown is the one used for the actual crowning of the monarch, but is exchanged for the Imperial State Crown, it being lighter?

They are both magnificent.

The Queen was the only living person to have worn that crown, when she was alive.

Lovetopaint037

So relieved to be back on Gransnet. Just been over on Mumsnet and can’t believe the rubbish I have been reading. It seems there are posters there who are only concerned about making the funeral a sexist issue. Also apparently it is too military !!!!Another who thought the Queen should be put in the ground without the processions passing certain places of significance. Another saw Princess Anne’s position with her siblings as a sexist stance. I suppose they are younger than us but they left me gobsmacked with their ignorance.

Is it ignorance? Or is it just time moving forward? Perhaps they would view some of our views as ignorance.

fairfraise

One thing puzzles me. Front page of online DT says the coffin was lowered into the Royal Vault. Yet I thought I saw it being carried out of the Chapel into a side corridor. Am I right or wrong?

It was lowered, we saw it start to be lowered but not what happened in the end. Presumably it is moved to one side in the vault and the floor rises again.
An impressive bit of engineering.

welbeck

doesn't bother me what it's called.

It might bother countries that were formerly part of the Empire.

And give the anti-monarchists something more to moan about.

Callistemon21

fairfraise

One thing puzzles me. Front page of online DT says the coffin was lowered into the Royal Vault. Yet I thought I saw it being carried out of the Chapel into a side corridor. Am I right or wrong?

It was lowered, we saw it start to be lowered but not what happened in the end. Presumably it is moved to one side in the vault and the floor rises again.
An impressive bit of engineering.

It was the same at Prince Philip's funeral.

I thought it was rather poignant that Charles seemed to be in the same seat his mother sat in all alone, at that funeral

Callistemon it certainly is impressive. I thought the whole thing, the aerial views of inside the Abbey and the aerial views of London and the Chapel was just wonderful. Apparently the Maori King was invited but I saw no mention of him, or did I miss that as well?

fairfraise Halfway through the lowering process they cut to a lone piper piping a lament in a side aisle and we watched as he slowly processed down the side aisle and round a corner, the sound getting fainter and fainter as he moved into the distance.

When the cameras returned to the main chapel the coffin had completed its descent and was no more in sight. Perhaps you conflated the two events.

No one does it better than the British ?

Thankyou Monica . It was all very well arranged.

With so many eminent people invited I doubt we saw the half of them, but then the day was not about who was there in other other than a general sense and the BBC made very little attempt to identify anyone outside the Royal Family and those involved in the services and processions. Congregation views were, infrequent and mainly birds eye and didn't really focus on anyone in particular. It was all about the late Queen, the grief of her family and all the millions or ordinary people in this country and overseas who shared their grief at the loss of this remarkable woman.

fairfraise

Callistemon it certainly is impressive. I thought the whole thing, the aerial views of inside the Abbey and the aerial views of London and the Chapel was just wonderful. Apparently the Maori King was invited but I saw no mention of him, or did I miss that as well?

I thought I saw the Maori king wearing his regalia fairfraise

I was disappointed in the countess of scotland wearing a colourful pashmina.
Made her look entitled imv.
Not what the occasion was about.

I did wonder how the Royal women coped when they had to stand on the grass, between services.
Their high heels must have sank and picked up mud and grass!

It was an absolute triumph in every way.

The queue where normal Brits (mainly, but some lovely people from over seas too) showed the world what we are really like.

The bagpipes, the flawless work by the forces, and much more.

So very well done.

an overseas friend who knows nothing of our traditions, was asking me who people were, and about the ceremony, why they were doing things.
she commented that the PM read well, with feeling, whereas she said baroness scotland was proud and didn't have the right spirit.
which i thought was interesting.

I rather liked the way Black Rod was involved in a lot of it. A woman with a stick telling men what to do!

I watched the drive from London to Windsor with DS - rather to my surprise because he isn't much of a monarchist. He was very disapproving of people clapping but, as he delivers all round Ascot and Windsor, he was very useful for pointing out which route they were taking "See they've just gone past the entrance I showed you for Frogmore Cottage" and so on.

Ooops! Baroness Scotland, not Countess as I said.
Thanks welbeck
Interesting comments by your friend too.

I’ve just done my nightly walk and todays music was going round in my head. The music, Big Ben, the cannons firing and then the other bell at Windsor were strangely hypnotic.

To be honest I though that Baronesses Scotland read her piece quite badly, far too slow, so that meaning got lost. Liz Truss did much better.

However given the world attention and precision of the whole event if one actually notices something like this, it says how perfect everything was.

Yes I agree, it's only a very insignificant thing overall.

I cant stop watching/listening to the bagpipes on youtube.
Especially the lone piper.

The whole 10 days have been so poignant.

It was perfect. Every movement. Every choice of music ,readings and the Archbishops address was so apt and thoughtful.

It went like clockwork. The music for the service was rather bland, the piper being the most moving. Prince Philip had Elgar’s Nimrod, which reduces me to tears. The marching bands excellent, although they played the same pieces over and over.
Baroness Scotland sounded like a robot.
I’ve overdosed unhealthily on royalty and need to get back to my own life today.

Were the Obamas there?

According to this post, no. www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a41245384/donald-trump-barack-obama-george-bush-queen-elizabeth-memorial/

I think each country could only have two representatives, simply because of space. The pipes are still going round in my head.

I've overdosed healthily on royalty and need to get back to my own life today
This made me laugh. ?
#Metoo
I was going to post something similar last night but thought it best to wait until today.

I wondered if the Queens spirit had been up in the rafters, what she would have thought! Probably very proud of what her country did for her?

It was a stunning, flawless performance and a very moving tribute to our dear Queen but I dread to think of the financial impact to our future economy... not saying it shouldn't have taken place...