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Anyone still thinking of voting tory at the next General Election?

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MaizieD Wed 28-Sept-22 16:14:37

Just that, really.

I'm curious to know if crashing the economy has influenced anyone's thinking...

Normandygirl Sat 01-Oct-22 00:17:19

LauraNorderr
"We want them to create our wealth and we will reward them."

"The policy of not increasing benefits for those who can work is to encourage self sufficiency "

How do you reconcile those two diametrically opposing principles?

GrauntyHelen Sat 01-Oct-22 01:32:58

Only the dyed in the wool Tory sheep I would think !

Doodledog Sat 01-Oct-22 01:43:30

Callistemon21

Chatting on an anonymous forum is not going to change anything, though is it, StoneofDestiny.

I’m not sure what this argument is about, but I seem to have been brought into it for agreeing with SoD. No, chatting on here won’t change anything, any more than it ever does, but that’s not why we do it (chat on here). We do it to exchange opinions, hear other points of view and consider things we might not have previously thought if (or that’s why I do it). I don’t know why that raised a sigh, but hey ho.

Mollygo Sat 01-Oct-22 03:23:05

Voting Tory, for more of the same? Why would anyone? But then Labour are doing more of this. Maybe small in the great scheme of things but appalling just the same.

Allsorts Sat 01-Oct-22 05:17:06

This post should be on news and politics.

Michael12 Sat 01-Oct-22 06:14:45

I think there will be a General Election before Spring next year , with strikes etc the government are siting back and saying I am all right jack.
Mick

Grandmahigham Sat 01-Oct-22 07:23:40

Never have,never will.My preference,would be Lib Dem or Green.As I live in a very safe Labour seat,I have the luxury of being able to vote with my heart.

SecondhandRose Sat 01-Oct-22 07:44:23

But unfortunately the super rich don't pay taxes. They take dividends from their companies and they borrow from their companies.

SecondhandRose Sat 01-Oct-22 07:47:37

Unfortunately this is the myth/truth/urbanmyth who knows? You decide.

Welcome to the conservative party
I asked my friend’s little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be Prime Minister some day.

Both her parents, Labour supporters, were standing there, so I asked her, “If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?”

She replied, “I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.”

Her parents beamed, and said, “Welcome to the Labour Party!”

“Wow…what a worthy goal!” I told her. I continued, “But you don’t have to wait until you’re Prime Minister to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, sweep my drive and I’ll pay you £25. Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the £25 to use toward food.”

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, “Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work and you can just pay him the £25?”

I smiled and said:

"Welcome to the Conservative Party.”

Maudi Sat 01-Oct-22 08:22:29

**07:47SecondhandRose

It's the truth SecondhandRose

Casdon Sat 01-Oct-22 08:30:50

Maudi

**07:47SecondhandRose

It's the truth SecondhandRose

I wonder what she’ll do when she’s no longer prime minister, and lacks the skills to mow her own lawn?

M0nica Sat 01-Oct-22 08:36:24

Perhaps this wise child should have suggested that 'I' went across and asked the homeless man at the grocery store whether he would like to come over to these jobs and be paid for it. Because how can he know he could earn some money this way if nobody tells him. I bet he would be over like aa shot. And if more people told him about these jobs, he would soon be able to afford somewhere to live.

Welcome to the Liberal Democrats.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 08:49:56

M0nica ???

Doodledog Sat 01-Oct-22 09:00:47

It’s early in the day for me, but is the implication here that Labour stands for making those who work to give money to those who don’t, the Tories are the party of full employment and the Lib Dems are about advertising vacancies or something?

I’m unconvinced about any of that. In my version of the tale, Labour would take some of the £25 and build homes for the man’s friends, and the Tories would want the man to cut the grass for a tenner and be grateful for the work. The Lib Dems would promise the man he would get the money then sign off on a policy that charged him £20 for the lawnmower when they got his vote.

Doodledog Sat 01-Oct-22 09:01:48

Sorry - an extra ‘to’ in the first sentence.

biglouis Sat 01-Oct-22 09:06:13

Ive voted conservative all my life but I would not vote for them tomorrow if there was a general election. Its difficult to say who (if anyone) I would vote for.

swampy1961 Sat 01-Oct-22 09:14:49

Most likely! Even though Boris was an idiot - he was still better than the latest shower. I'd have thought more of Boris if he had admitted to his transgressions than lying!!
But I feel Labour have slight communist tendencies and want to share the wealth without encouraging people to get out there and earn their money and therefore improve their lot.
A former work colleague whose Mum is a Labour MP has admitted that Labour tend to give money away when they are in power and then let a new government take the flak for cuts only to give it all away again when they get back into power creating a vicious historical circle.
I must admit though that benefits need to be way below the National Minimum Wage to make people realise that working is the better option so it will be interesting to see if KK and LT do anything about this.
Off to hide under my rock!!

MayBee70 Sat 01-Oct-22 09:19:58

swampy1961

Most likely! Even though Boris was an idiot - he was still better than the latest shower. I'd have thought more of Boris if he had admitted to his transgressions than lying!!
But I feel Labour have slight communist tendencies and want to share the wealth without encouraging people to get out there and earn their money and therefore improve their lot.
A former work colleague whose Mum is a Labour MP has admitted that Labour tend to give money away when they are in power and then let a new government take the flak for cuts only to give it all away again when they get back into power creating a vicious historical circle.
I must admit though that benefits need to be way below the National Minimum Wage to make people realise that working is the better option so it will be interesting to see if KK and LT do anything about this.
Off to hide under my rock!!

Don’t worry. I’m sure they’re working on it…..

Maudi Sat 01-Oct-22 09:22:18

09:14swampy1961

I agree with you swampy no need to hide behind a rock.

MaizieD Sat 01-Oct-22 09:22:24

Allsorts

This post should be on news and politics.

I put it on Chat because I thought it would reach a larger section of the Gnet community. We're always being told that people don't venture onto N & P. I was genuinely curious to know if people would still vote tory despite the Truss/Kwarteng induced currency crisis.

Once a thread is started the OP has no control over how it develops.

It's been interesting

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 09:22:48

We're doomed.

We're really doomed.

A lifetime of experience for most of us and there are still folk who think the Labour Party are closet communists, and others who think they're too far to the right.

And I wish I could find that post from last night that showed that a huge proportion of people on benefits are actually in work so that "make them destitute to get off their lazy fat ar*es" isn't a valid political position.

Kandinsky Sat 01-Oct-22 09:37:28

Personally, I vote for whoever will make me richer & my life easier.
I’m a very selfish voter.

SecondhandRose Sat 01-Oct-22 09:38:05

Just putting this out there. When my very elderly mother passes away I will inherit approx £200k. Parents paid all their taxes, national insurance etc.

If we carry on with the Tories that money will be safe and I can use it to get my children on the housing ladder. If we don’t carry on with the Tories I have no doubt Labour will claw back money that has already been taxed and my children won’t get on the housing ladder until we die or downsize considerably.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 09:38:54

And to hell with the rest of you.

Ah, the Conservative rallying cry... wink

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 09:39:46

If we carry on with the Tories that money will be safe

Ya think???? Good luck with that one...