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Soaring heating costs, what's your plan.

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wetflannel Tue 04-Oct-22 15:00:02

I'm not sure if this has been covered elsewhere but anyone dared put on their heating yet or like me putting it off until absolutely necessary. We will start by layering up our clothes and a throw over our legs in the evening. I'm currently wearing 2 pairs of socks as I cannot bear cold feet. We never have our heater on in our bedroom as I cannot sleep in a stuffy room. When our bungalow was built it was all electric and remains so, as gas hasn't reached our village. Tumble drier is in retirement for as long as is possible.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Oct-22 21:49:57

As Norah said, some people do more than one job, especially if their main job isn’t well paid.

I could perfectly well have paid for childcare but it was my, and my parents’, choice not to do so, so don’t throw that one at me Jane.

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 21:50:25

I saved the economy millions for caring for my daughter at home for so long. I see how much her care costs now. I'm not even remotely or feel in any way guilty that I claimed the £60 a week carers allowance whilst I worked part time as I wasn't getting any respite or sleep. I can count on one hand the amount of times my family had my children for me and that is fine, they were not cut out for helping out or had their own work commitments. I don't think I am less important or more important than anyone else. But it is a fact that I could have just let the state care for my daughter and it would have cost a fortune

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 21:53:48

Please read up on how family/spouse carers are affected financially through their care responsibilities, even those that earn good money

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 21:54:21

I worked as a carer before becoming a TA and trust me, even a good hourly wage, you can spend more time driving between clients than working. And even if you get help with petrol costs, you can't get that time back.

Still, it is another worthwhile job

You just can't spend the time people actually need and it is heartbreaking and your whole life becomes about rushing everything and everyone

imaround Tue 04-Oct-22 21:56:10

Eek! Lots of people worldwide working hard and earning low salaries. Doesn't mean that they do not struggle with rising costs and have every right to not be happy about that.

Paying for childcare vs getting free childcare can make all the difference in the world. For some families, the cost of childcare would be more than the paycheck coming in so it does not make sense to not be home with the kids.

I am surprised the judgement still shocks me to be honest.

Dickens Tue 04-Oct-22 21:58:19

Norah

Barmeyoldbat Tory cry of work more hours if you can’t manage

I don't understand why able workers are not working more hours or getting a second job. Pity sake, why not?

There are myriad reasons why people might not work more hours or get a second job. One size, does not, nor ever has, fit all.

I don't need to enumerate the reasons however it should be pointed out that if you have dependent children it is not easy to just add a few more hours to your working day / week due to the fact that (a) it is not always possible to find someone to look after your children and (b) if you don't have family who can take on the responsibility you have to pay for someone to do it - which for some is unaffordable. The same applies to getting a second job. That's the reality for families.

Whilst huge profits are being made alongside the energy price hike, I find it quite abhorrent that those who are working are being told to work even harder and longer, when there are other options that a government can take.

The rest of Europe has taken steps to mitigate the cost-of-living crisis, particularly in regard to the global energy price increase. The UK wants to protect profits, give more money to the already well-off, cut public spending (again), and the low-paid to work longer and harder... taking on more low-paid work. The impoverished have had years of Austerity, stagnating wages, the pandemic, lockdowns and now the cost-of-living crisis, to contend with and, as usual, are going to bear the brunt of it all.

Why do we always encourage the well-off workers with tax cuts, but tell the poorly paid to just work harder?

OnwardandUpward Tue 04-Oct-22 21:59:28

No one thinks that VS , or if they do it's their problem for not valuing parenting and those who work in education. The shame is not yours! I certainly stayed at home with my kids before they were school age and pity anyone who did not get that chance. They missed out and they know it. Those of us who have always been there can have no regrets.

It was very judegemental and condescending of GSM to comment on your job. I don't think its relevant who does what or whether theyre working or retirement age- many people are struggling- full stop. I have heard that under this government, more people than ever are needing to use Food Banks and that it's working people.

That is truly terrible if it's true.

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 22:01:22

I owe a few thank yous now

Thank you

Many humans give me hope

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 22:01:35

It is a while since I have had to pay for an after school club but it used to be @ £5 for extra hour/hour and half but not all schools offer them anyway

OnwardandUpward Tue 04-Oct-22 22:02:23

Aww flowers

working in education is one of the hardest jobs I ever did and you are much valued, know that. No one knows just how much you go above and beyond unless they have done it.

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 22:03:34

I'm not sure how it happened Onward

I'm just like "electric blankets are cool"

Next thing I know, I'm dodging flying poo

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 22:05:03

and after school clubs don't exist for children with additional needs....or if they do they are ££ and after speaking to the head of children with disabilities services in my county previously, it is more cost effective for parents to just be full time carers if their children have a high level of need, especially if they are in special schooling - so nothing is ever done to improve services or access to services as it's too expensive to do so

nadateturbe Tue 04-Oct-22 22:05:32

My plan is to save a little where possible but I will not live in a cold house while I have savings.
And do my best to help my children ..and remember the food bank.
But it's unfair that we have to do this.
I wish people would stop judging others

OnwardandUpward Tue 04-Oct-22 22:06:16

Well apparently even I had a "deprived" childhood even though I had a vest and Vicks Vapour rub LOL.

There is no pleasing some people VS.

I hate electric blankets or being hot and have to open the window to sleep at night dodges poo grin

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 22:07:05

It is just ignorance VS

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Oct-22 22:07:19

It’s very relevant that some people are paying a lot of tax Onwardandupward. If they weren’t where would the benefits come from?

Yes, I missed out on being at home with my child because it was full time work or nothing in my profession. No choice.

Millie22 Tue 04-Oct-22 22:08:44

VioletSky
You don't have to keep justifying what you did.

You care which is more than enough.

On the energy side I'm not prepared to be cold which happened when I was younger.

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 22:11:43

I've heard it was once used very successfully as housing insulation but I think cow or maybe horse poo is preferable

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 22:13:43

Thanks Millie, more just chatting with others at this point but I think I will behave now because I think it's detracting from the subject of the thread

Sarah74 Tue 04-Oct-22 22:15:57

Germanshepherdsmum

I’m sure I enjoyed working more than twice as many hours as you and subsidising your lifestyle VS, and many others like you. Someone has to don’t they? Carry on working the hours and doing the little job that suit you. I won’t be sympathising whilst being warm. I’ve earned it.

I have reported this post as I think it is appallingly rude and condescending. I don’t always agree with VS, but to ‘speak’ to her like that is dreadful.

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 22:18:36

Please let the post stay. It shouldn't be moderated. It isn't just VS on the receiving on of this stuff

Doodledog Tue 04-Oct-22 22:18:48

HeatGen items (from M&S) are very good at keeping you warm if you are sitting for any length of time. I have been working all day (on the laptop) and have really felt better for wearing one. They come in sleeveless, short and long sleeved versions in lots of colours, so you can layer them up or wear the long sleeved ones on their own. I have one on under a dress and leggings.

JaneJudge Tue 04-Oct-22 22:22:48

That is good to know doodledog, I could do with one at work. Do they get too hot though if you are moving around?

VioletSky Tue 04-Oct-22 22:25:15

I've not reported and won't

I rarely report and this hasn't pushed any of my buttons.

I already know people think like this

I also know lots of people work very hard and still struggle or work as much as they are able too with personal circumstances or cannot work at all and they are still valid and have value

Sometimes a detractor serves to remind us to show some kindness and respect to everyone put there doing their best

OnwardandUpward Tue 04-Oct-22 22:26:35

Sarah74 you don't have to always agree with someone to be able to tell the difference between right and wrong.

To call that job " a little job" is incredibly demeaning to all who work so hard with our kids and grandkids.

To say that someone does not deserve to be warm is appalling. So sorry for your "poor little rich girl" vibes GSM. Not all of us had your privileges. I'm happy for you that you had a wonderful career but it's just not nice to talk to people like that. Many kind and good people work in caring professions where they are not paid enough. It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. Otherwise where would this society be?