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Dog friendly? What would you do?

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GrannyRose15 Sat 22-Oct-22 13:13:45

I arranged to go out for a countryside walk with a group of friends, some I know well, some I hardly know at all. We were supposed to walk for about an hour and finish up at an eating place for lunch.
Quite a nice cafe style place for lunch with three separate eating areas with same menu; outside area, inside conservatory and inside restaurant.
No dogs allowed in restaurant area but staff quite happy for dogs to stay with you in other areas.
Friends decided to eat in restaurant area even though they knew I couldn't bring my dog in with me.
What would you have done?
1. Tied dog up outside, where you couldn't see him and risk him, or you, getting anxious, and sit and eat with friends.
2. Eat on your own in another area.
3. Go home.
Just wonder what others think.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Oct-22 15:52:19

He was just taken along, regardless of how hurt he might be by being exposed to these horrible people who thought nothing of making him unwelcome.

?

Norah Tue 25-Oct-22 15:50:13

Our 3 Parson Terriers are well trained, small, energetic, ridiculously active, jumpy, noisy when they feel the need.

They don't need to be out walking with other dogs or people.

Not everyone likes our dogs. We know this and always keep them a distance away from anyone except us.

I still find it rude to leave a friend alone on a planned visit.

Glorianny Tue 25-Oct-22 15:43:13

Jzpap

Glorianny

It is actually quite difficult to say to a dog owner "I don't want/can't stand your dog" . So perhaps the group have tried dropping hints before and just been ignored. This time they chose to eat where the dog couldn't go. The message is clear. The dog isn't wanted

What a nasty comment. A classic example of dogs being nicer than some people

Well I wouldn't have said so, but then I read your comment so perhaps you are right.

Doodledog Tue 25-Oct-22 15:41:33

Kryptonite

3 for me. I can't help noticing that there seems to be more sympathy for the excluded dog than the excluded grandparents (wedding) in a previous post! ?

The grandparents weren’t excluded - they just weren’t invited. The poor dog had no say in this. He was just taken along, regardless of how hurt he might be by being exposed to these horrible people who thought nothing of making him unwelcome.

wink wink wink <——— for avoidance of doubt.

Blondiescot Tue 25-Oct-22 15:41:18

I have read it and while I do sympathise, I was bitten by a dog belonging to my mum's friend when I was just a child. It didn't make me scared of all dogs. However, I can understand how someone who had been attacked by a dog may be wary of them in the future. That's totally different from simply saying you don't like dogs. It's the same as my friend's son, who absolutely loves spiders and cannot understand for the life of him why anyone could possibly be scared of them or not love them as much as he does.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Oct-22 15:21:33

in the same way that I cannot comprehend how anyone can be racist or homophobic, I also don't understand how anyone cannot like animals, dogs in particular. It's unfathomable to me. I hope that clarifies it for you.

Not really.

Have you read silverlining's post?
DGD was knocked flying by a huge, strange dog when she was 2 and has remained nervous of many dogs. They have their own small dog which has helped but not all dogs are lovely.

I like most (not all) dogs and there is nothing wrong with people who don't like them.

Grannynannywanny Tue 25-Oct-22 15:17:12

silverlining48 that must have been an utterly terrifying experience for you all those years ago. No wonder you are uneasy around dogs. Dreadful now that your grandchildren have been on the receiving end of an inconsiderate dog owner and her out of control dogs.

No matter how small and cute a dog might be, if somebody is afraid of dogs they are still going to be afraid of being approached and there are too many dog owners who just can’t see it.

The “he’s just saying hello/being friendly” comments are infuriating to me if I’m out walking with my learning disabled relative and this happens. He can’t walk now but his reaction used to be to scream and run. He ran onto the road one day to remove himself from a yappy dog scenario.

I say this as a life long dog lover..I wish some dog owners would refrain from assuming because they love their dogs everyone loves them. And if they don’t then there must be something wrong with them.?

Naughtyneine Tue 25-Oct-22 15:16:35

Well here's your answer....
Posted tongue in cheek to lighten the mood as it were ...

Kate1949 Tue 25-Oct-22 15:13:42

I like animals. I just don't like and am wary of dogs. I have had a few bad experiences with them. A while ago on another thread, a I posted about some of my incidents with dogs. One poster implied that I was making them up. I wasn't.

Blondiescot Tue 25-Oct-22 14:58:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

silverlining48 Tue 25-Oct-22 14:38:16

There are many reasons why some people might not be keen on dogs. Just to explain, I was attacked at 13 by a huge Alsatian, no one was around to help and this experience remained with me all my life and it’s taken 60 odd years to deal with the fear. I am much better than I was, and know some sweet dogs, but lively, noisy , barking, jumping, leapy, licky sniffy dogs still frighten me. Just can’t help it. Well licky and sniffy dogs don’t frighten me I just don’t like it.

Dog owners seem to think everyone must love their dogs because they do, but that is not the case. I understand the love but they need to be responsible and understand others’ genuine fear.

A couple of years ago I was out walking with my two young gc. A woman with about 10 dogs but only 2 or 3 on a lead wasn’t far away. About 6 of the dogs charged over to us, barking and jumping up at the gc who were screaming with fear. It was obvious we were terrified but she did nothing. I had to keep shouting fir her to get the dogs off. Her response was ‘ they are only being friendly’’. Eventually she casually strolled over . No apology, only repeating they were just being friendly. These were dogs bigger than my gc and it did not feel friendly, they were terrifying us. She was not in the least sorry. My gs, now 9 is really scared of dogs. I hope this fear doesn’t last as long as mine has.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Oct-22 14:28:49

Kryptonite

3 for me. I can't help noticing that there seems to be more sympathy for the excluded dog than the excluded grandparents (wedding) in a previous post! ?

Amazing!

I doubt that the dog cared at all (or realised) he wasn't wanted ? bless him.

GrammyGrammy Tue 25-Oct-22 14:27:29

or 4. Remind them that you have a dog and cannot access the restaurant area and if they then persist with their plan then look each in the eye, tell them all to eff orf and leave.

Kryptonite Tue 25-Oct-22 14:27:02

3 for me. I can't help noticing that there seems to be more sympathy for the excluded dog than the excluded grandparents (wedding) in a previous post! ?

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Oct-22 14:13:59

Blondiescot

But surely you would naturally gravitate towards people who shared similar interests? For instance, say I met someone who openly aired racist or homophobic views - I would instantly know that was someone I wouldn't want to be friends with.

Equating people who dislike dogs with racists and homophobes is so very wrong on so many levels.
I'm shocked you posted that.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Oct-22 14:11:53

Vintagejazz

Blondiescot

But surely you would naturally gravitate towards people who shared similar interests? For instance, say I met someone who openly aired racist or homophobic views - I would instantly know that was someone I wouldn't want to be friends with.

I have friends who I've dogs, I have friends who are terrified of them and I have friends who are indifferent to them.

Me too.

Saying you love dogs and thinking anyone who doesn't must have something wrong with them is patently wrong.

Some dogs are nasty.

Jzpap Tue 25-Oct-22 14:05:10

Glorianny

It is actually quite difficult to say to a dog owner "I don't want/can't stand your dog" . So perhaps the group have tried dropping hints before and just been ignored. This time they chose to eat where the dog couldn't go. The message is clear. The dog isn't wanted

What a nasty comment. A classic example of dogs being nicer than some people

Vintagejazz Tue 25-Oct-22 13:39:21

LOVE dogs

Vintagejazz Tue 25-Oct-22 13:39:06

Blondiescot

But surely you would naturally gravitate towards people who shared similar interests? For instance, say I met someone who openly aired racist or homophobic views - I would instantly know that was someone I wouldn't want to be friends with.

I have friends who I've dogs, I have friends who are terrified of them and I have friends who are indifferent to them.

Blondiescot Tue 25-Oct-22 13:16:12

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Kate1949 Tue 25-Oct-22 13:09:12

Exactly Doodledog. Some people I know have interests/likes that I don't have and vice versa. My brother has two dogs and knows we don't like dogs, but he knows we're not untrustworthy. This is my problem with (some) dog lovers. They seem unable to comprehend a different point of view.

Doodledog Tue 25-Oct-22 13:02:42

Blondiescot

But surely you would naturally gravitate towards people who shared similar interests? For instance, say I met someone who openly aired racist or homophobic views - I would instantly know that was someone I wouldn't want to be friends with.

What? How does being racist or homophobic have anything, anything to do with loving dogs?

One is an outlook on life that is incompatible with most decent people's tolerance levels. The other is a preference for pets, to possibly a phobia or allergy over which they have no control.

I love dogs, but am happily friends with people who don't. I knit, but most of my friends don't. I could be friends with people who love spiders, but I wouldn't want to share my space with their eight-legged pets. A racist or homophobe is different entirely though.

Kate1949 Tue 25-Oct-22 13:01:10

Yes of course Blondiescot I wouldn't trust or like anyone racist or bigoted but not liking dogs is totally different.

melp1 Tue 25-Oct-22 12:58:08

Very surprised the ones you 'knew well' didn't agree to sit with you. I'd have gone home as well.
Have you met up with them since?

Blondiescot Tue 25-Oct-22 12:55:19

Message withdrawn at poster's request.